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[Paul_Johnsen]

I made the map in 2006. Back then N1c1 was known as N3.

my predicted 'I1a' would today be known as 'I1'
my predicted 'I1c' would today be known as 'I2b1'...

[Paul_Johnsen]

I was made aware that there seems to be something wrong with the initial pdf. I am therefore trying to repost it....

[Paul_Johnsen]

Mikael (and others), the Nordic R1a YDNA project is not a FTDNA-project. It is a private Scandinavian language mailing list. Should any wish to gain access; please mail me at bljohnse at hotmail dot com. I can contact the administrators.

I am also aware of a Norwegian mailing list about...

[Paul_Johnsen]

At 67-marker you can "go beyond" the DYS 393 =15 which means that you have very few matches. If you had ignored that marker, your haplotype wouldn't really be that unusual as far as I can see....

[Paul_Johnsen]

My hunch would be that your DY393: 13 => 15 is a quite recent mutation, so it might not be "good" for deep ancestry, but "useful" for "close relationship". I could be wrong of course. You could try to upgrade to 67-marker and see where your nearest matches are concentrated...

[Paul_Johnsen]

Yes, there are lots of people who are R1a in Sweden and Austria. However I think the Swedish YHRD samples you refer to come from the study "Y-chromosome diversity in Sweden – A long-time perspective". None of the tested people with DYS 393 = 15 were R1a....

[Paul_Johnsen]

I don't think many of these are R1a1....

[Paul_Johnsen]

Interesting to see the dominance of the Norwegians. Even one of the Swedes come from a region that is historically a part of Norway (Jamtland).

[Paul_Johnsen]

My HVR1 African matches in RAO (H not tested for any subclades + 16519c):

Algeria 3 (43) (also 2 Sephardic)
Central African Republic 1 (95)
the Democratic Republic of the Congo 1 (54)
Ethiopia 2 (281)
Ghana 1(15)
(Libyan Arab Jamahiriya 5 (89) Sephardic)...

[Paul_Johnsen]

Nothing peer-reviewed as far as I know. Generally you need a lot of markers to see anything useful in a comparatively young haplogroup like R1a1.Some combinations of Str are quite regional: DYS 388 = 10 and DYS 448= 19 in various "Germanic" countries, and another group with DYS 594 = 11 and...

[Paul_Johnsen]

This type of conclusions on only 9-Str markers is illadvised IMO.

[Paul_Johnsen]

I suppose it would be nice to get an explanation as to why I1a appears to have equal (or maybe even lower) STR-diversity to the supposed IE newcomers (R1a/R1b). With an estimate of MCRA 6,000 years I1a hardly goes back to the last ice age itself. Would this mean that the supposed Non-IE element in Germanic...

[Paul_Johnsen]

I think this is because SRY10381 is consider to be "ancestral state" in R1a. This means that the SRY10381.2 is considered as a "back-mutation". Every haplogroup is "positive" for this mutation except A and R1a, as far as I know....

[Paul_Johnsen]

Looks like somebody made a BIG mistake here to me. "Genetic Landscape of the Central Asia and Volga–Ural Region" says:



The only Kivislid reference is : Kivisild, T., Rootsi, S., Metspalu, M., Mastana, S., Kaldma, K., Parik, J., Metspalu, E., Adojaan, M., Tolk,...

[Paul_Johnsen]

Here are the possible Scandinavian G's that I know about (apart for commercial testing) :

From "Geographical heterogeneity of Y-chromosomal lineages in Norway":

Location 393 390 19 391 385a 385b 426 388 439 389I 392 389II
West 14 22 15 10 14 14 n.t 13 n.t...