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[vraatyah]

Direct maternal line? To 1375?

[vraatyah]

Yaffa, probably you asked too deep question for this discussion. As to Susan's results, I suspect that the English variety (where 2 types are found, one by Sykes and one is announced in this topic) is greater than that in Mongolians, so actually there is no direct link.

[vraatyah]

indeed quite a rare U5b type. There are some partial matches in the published literature based on the presence of 16465T which I do not assume to be unique in the U5b family.

First, check this variant which seems to be in the extended U5b3 branch:

gi|194739404|gb|EU926618.1|...

[vraatyah]

still very low probability, I think

[vraatyah]

Please check this topic on M assignments, probably it's of interest:

http://forums.familytreedna.com/showthread.php?p=85693

[vraatyah]

3 years ago, when FTDNA assigned this haplogroup, they didn't run multiplex for determining main haplogroups, or at least did not perform it routinely on each sample. The GP did, but I didn't know about it. Now this assignment seems to be confirmed in Behar's paper:

M*
124-182C-183C-189-209-293C-304-362...

[vraatyah]

Hi dnaexplorer,

although 184+223 in combination with something else is not rare type, only exactly matching types should be counted, because there are several branches of N and M whose defining motifs do include 184+223, while your type obviously does not belong to those branches (FTDNA...

[vraatyah]

First of all, "M*" is a very vague designation in its own, because it doesn't stand for a particular haplogroup, it's just M. This is very old haplogroup, probably as old as humans in Eurasia, and it comprises of several dozens of branches. Almost all of them are typically Asian, however,...

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Penguin, I don't think that the problem is in particular policies of the T FGS project. More likely, the reason not to disclose full results is a common belief that there are some "medical applications" of mtdna sequencing. Otherwise there will be no need in such projects - everyone may compare...

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Formally, the transition had while the transversion hadn't: the first transversional change C->G was actually a unique event followed by subsequent "lightweight" transitions G->A in some branches of N1b....

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Us are typical everywhere in Europe and reach the total frequency of 21% in Russia, however U8 (without K) is one of the rarest....

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they also run some basical SNP tests for deep haplogroups, and unfortunately it appeared to be costly enough to check for hgs such as U8a, U8b, U7 etc which do not reach even 1% of the European pool....

[vraatyah]

you are likely to be in U8b1 according to your HVS1 mutations, indeed; however you would fall into U6 if you were, say, a N. African Arab/Berber or a Spaniard. Please, contact your testing company (is it FTDNA?) and ask for the coding region SNP test to check if you are uctually in U8. The test for...

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they don't check samples for being in U8...

[vraatyah]

Hello Genghiskhan,

the lineage you got is an example of very rare U8b1 haplogroup, which is considered as a "sister-clade" to very common in Europe hg K. There are 7 exact matches in the published literature:


Poles, 1/600
Russians, 1/1150
...