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  • #46
    Stevens_Augustine branch showing FGC36981 branch_no names at bottom.jpgHopefully the image above is clearer and simpler than a narrative description of the progress made on my y-chromosome line since I posted back in 2017.

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    • #47
      Here's a graphic covering the whole Stephens/Stevens R1b-FGC36974 group.

      Stephens_Stevens_FGC36974 Tree_ with pics.jpg

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      • #48
        Here's a graphic in which the emphasis is on the SNPs rather than on photos.

        All the kit numbers in the box on the far right are derived (positive) for FGC36974 but thus far don't share any known SNPs that can be placed downstream of it. That does not mean their SNP pedigrees stop at FGC36974. They don't stop there; it's just that further testing is needed to find those SNPs. So right now c. 1650 and FGC36974 is as far as they can go.

        We know from testing that both PF5064 and FGC36982 arose sometime between c. 1650 and c. 1750. The men who share PF5064 all probably share Hanson Stevens (born about 1750) of Fayette County, PA as a common y-dna ancestor. That means Hanson was derived for PF5064. All the men who share FGC36982 share Augustine Stevens (born about 1750), who also lived in Fayette County, PA, as their common y-dna ancestor, which means Augustine was derived for FGC36982.

        We also know from testing that FGC36981 (lower left) arose sometime between c. 1750 and the end of 1835, because Augustine Stevens was negative for it, but his great grandson James Holmes Stevens was derived (positive) for it. We know Augustine was negative for FGC36981 because not all the men who share him as common y-dna ancestor are positive for it, but they are all positive for FGC36982. We know James was positive for FGC36981 because all the men who share him as common y-dna ancestor are positive for it.

        FGC36974 tree_Stephens_Stevens.jpg

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        • #49
          We have another Stephens guy in this group awaiting Big Y-700 results. Wish we could get all our guys tested.

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          • #50
            Someone out there in the ether might be wondering how the obvious progress reflected in the graphic in post #46 came about. Here's the story.

            Back in July of 2018 I got a small (9 cMs) match at Ancestry DNA with a man with my surname who has a solid paper trail to two people whom I suspected are my fifth great grandparents. I was thrilled. I sent him several messages in July and August asking him to have his y-dna tested with Family Tree DNA, but I never got an answer. Needless to say, I was heartbroken. Then, in November of that same year, I was looking at that match again at Ancestry and decided to give messaging him one more try. This time, however, I prayed first and asked God for help. Miraculously, within a couple of days, the man answered and agreed to order a Y-111 test and pay for it himself, even though I had offered to pay for a Y-37 test! THANK YOU, GOD!

            On 04 Jan 2019, his Y-111 results came in, and he matches me 110/111! Not only that, but he also ordered a Family Finder test and matches me on 31 cMs with a longest block of 16 cMs! He shares matches with me to my dad, my youngest son, and a number of my other paternal line matches. I could sense his own amazement at the results, which he proved by upgrading to the Big Y-700. Needless to say, this man is also a Big Y-700 match for me.

            Thanks to God and to Family Tree DNA, I now have confirmation of the identity of my fifth great grandparents, both of whom were born about 1750, one, Augustine Stevens, in Maryland, and the other, Sophia Young, in England.

            Sadly, there is still a gap in the paper trail between Augustine and his grandson Auguston. I still don't know for sure who Auguston's father is.

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