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  • Warkhag
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    Originally posted by musayev View Post

    Mostly Lezgin but not mixed with Tats.From my dad's paternal line they came from Levant but don't know exactly whom they belong for now.And from my mom's father line i have some iranian admixture also don't have relationships with them.Don't know if they're Azeri of Iran or Persian or other ethnicity.
    Wow Greetings !
    i have just registered as a guest when i saw all the conversation

    Nice to meet you i am a J2b1f of Mtdna
    And a Mountain Jew\Tat. from Guba and half Azari (i guess)

    ( TODAY IM NOT LIVING IN CAUCASUS ANYMORE )

    maybe there is any chance to explore about you more ?
    Last edited by Warkhag; 19 June 2019, 06:48 PM.

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  • musayev
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    Originally posted by sevi View Post
    musayev,

    As I understand, you are mostly Lezgin mixed with Tats originally from Quba?
    Mostly Lezgin but not mixed with Tats.From my dad's paternal line they came from Levant but don't know exactly whom they belong for now.And from my mom's father line i have some iranian admixture also don't have relationships with them.Don't know if they're Azeri of Iran or Persian or other ethnicity.

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  • Odis
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    in myOrigins I show under 2% M/E Middle East....so that probably is noise, of the only 97 people who have tested from Azerbaijan I match 34 of them and they claim Mizrachi...but they have only did the HVR 1 test,

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  • sevi
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    Originally posted by Odis View Post
    Hello, I assume these matches are non-significant as being only in HVR 1, unless it could be a very distant connection, maybe over 2 thousand years, but it has been in my maternal ancestral matches since I first tested...if a few more tested in azerbaijan I would be at about 34% there, but then again if these people tested out more those matches could dissolve...also I only show less than 2% M/E in myOrigins..my maternal is J2b1b any thoughts...
    HVR1 MATCHES
    Country Match Total Country Total Percentage Comments

    Azerbaijan 36 97 N/A Mizrachi (34)

    Bulgaria 2 353 0.6% Sephardic (2)



    Georgia 3 121 2.5% Mizrachi (2)

    Iran 6 324 1.9% Mizrachi (4)
    Iraq 2 247 0.8% Kurd (Mizrachi) (1), Mizrachi (1)

    Israel 1 390 0.3% Palestinian (1)
    The woman who started this branch(J2b1b) lived at some point between recent generations and 4,200 years ago (Behar et al., 2012b).

    Are your matches from Azerbaijan are J2b1b or J2b1f? Are they all Jews?
    What mean "M/E"?

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  • Odis
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    Hello, I assume these matches are non-significant as being only in HVR 1, unless it could be a very distant connection, maybe over 2 thousand years, but it has been in my maternal ancestral matches since I first tested...if a few more tested in azerbaijan I would be at about 34% there, but then again if these people tested out more those matches could dissolve...also I only show less than 2% M/E in myOrigins..my maternal is J2b1b any thoughts...
    HVR1 MATCHES
    Country Match Total Country Total Percentage Comments

    Azerbaijan 36 97 N/A Mizrachi (34)

    Bulgaria 2 353 0.6% Sephardic (2)



    Georgia 3 121 2.5% Mizrachi (2)

    Iran 6 324 1.9% Mizrachi (4)
    Iraq 2 247 0.8% Kurd (Mizrachi) (1), Mizrachi (1)

    Israel 1 390 0.3% Palestinian (1)

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  • sevi
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    musayev,

    As I understand, you are mostly Lezgin mixed with Tats originally from Quba?

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  • musayev
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    Originally posted by kingjohn View Post
    wait a second
    i am slow
    musayev your my- heritage results from other forum is very different
    from sevi results:
    for example you score Scottish 11%
    your Greek is much lower than sevi
    another difference
    sevi score huge mizrachi inline with persian- jewish origin before moving to Albania kingdom { not Albania in Balkan but Albania kingdom}

    your south asian score are the very close

    so let me get that straight sevi is tat and you are non -jewish azeri ?

    with kind regards
    for both of you
    adam
    You're right about us.I just wrote my opinion about naming Tat because i'm from that region.In general,our region's ethnic composition is very complex.

    As for my MyHeritage results,it's really interesting for me 11% Irish-Scottish result.I scored 2% British in MO.

    And it was good coincidence that i can see one of Mountain Jew's results at the same period with me.There are many people in our region claiming their Arab and Jewish origin.But i can each of Caucasus and Azerbaijan people score very high Asia Minor result.

    Best,Musayev
    Last edited by musayev; 31 July 2017, 08:03 AM.

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  • kingjohn
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    wait a second
    i am slow
    musayev your my- heritage results from other forum is very different
    from sevi results:
    for example you score Scottish 11%
    your Greek is much lower than sevi
    another difference
    sevi score huge mizrachi inline with persian- jewish origin before moving to Albania kingdom { not Albania in Balkan but Albania kingdom}

    your south asian score are the very close

    so let me get that straight sevi is tat and you are non -jewish azeri ?

    with kind regards
    for both of you
    adam

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  • musayev
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    Originally posted by sevi View Post
    Musayev,

    Mountain Jewish language "Juhuri" is more archaic than Tat language. So, I think Mountain Jews aren't speak in their language, they are both have the same geographic source of their language(Middle Persian).
    Thank you for correction.I know that fact.You use more Hebrew words.
    Naming of Mountain Jews as Tat was mistake of Soviet scholars
    Last edited by musayev; 30 July 2017, 08:22 PM.

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  • sevi
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    Originally posted by musayev View Post
    Hello Adam,

    Tat jewish and Mountain Jews names belong to the same community.I'm from Quba,Azerbaijan.Tats are Muslims.Mountain Jews speak in their language.

    Best,Musayev
    Musayev,

    Mountain Jewish language "Juhuri" is more archaic than Tat language. So, I think Mountain Jews aren't speak in their language, they are both have the same geographic source of their language(Middle Persian).

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  • musayev
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    Originally posted by kingjohn View Post
    wow very nice
    results
    thanks for sharing sevi
    kind regards
    adam


    p.s

    my friend in work was born in deghastan
    but he is tat jewish .....
    so it is very cool ...
    high southern european element in both tests { ftdna and my heritage }
    Hello Adam,

    Tat jewish and Mountain Jews names belong to the same community.I'm from Quba,Azerbaijan.Tats are Muslims.Mountain Jews speak in their language.

    Best,Musayev

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  • kingjohn
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    wow very nice
    results
    thanks for sharing sevi
    kind regards
    adam


    p.s

    my friend in work was born in deghastan
    but he is tat jewish .....
    so it is very cool ...
    high southern european element in both tests { ftdna and my heritage }

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  • sevi
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  • kingjohn
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    Originally posted by sevi View Post
    This is my result from MyHeritage:
    dear sevi ,
    you score huge greek
    can you share your my origins 2.0 results
    with kind regards
    adam

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  • josh w.
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    Originally posted by sevi View Post
    Did you mean Admixture (heritage) -> Eurogenes -> Eurogenes K13 -> spreadsheet?
    there is not Iraqi there
    Sorry, Atzmon's data are at: Atzmon, 2010,"Abraham's children in the genomic era...". Some of his samples were uploaded To Eurogenes but not the Iraqi sample

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