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    In principle the Jewish community divided to three big diaspora.
    1. Ashkenazi
    2. Sephardi
    3. Mizrahi
    (and of course there are another small diaspora)

    myOrginis ethnicity calculator determine only Ashkenazi and Sephardi diaspora, but why they are not interested to include Mizrahi also?

    When I transfer my raw data to MyHeritage, they determine me as Mizrahi Jewish, because their ethnicity calculator have Mizrahi Jewish DNA database.

    So, in my point myOrginis is more exactly at this moment.
    Last edited by sevi; 19th July 2017, 09:21 PM.

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    sevi: Which Mizrahi community do you belong to?

    I have seen autosomal DNA results from Mizrahi Jews from Iraq, Iran, Azerbaijan, and Uzbekistan.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by sevi View Post
      In principle the Jewish community divided to three big diaspora.
      1. Ashkenazi
      2. Sephardi
      3. Mizrahi
      (and of course there are another small diaspora)

      myOrginis ethnicity calculator determine only Ashkenazi and Sephardi diaspora, but why they are not interested to include Mizrahi also?

      When I transfer my raw data to MyHeritage, they determine me as Mizrahi Jewish, because their ethnicity calculator have Mizrahi Jewish DNA database.

      So, in my point myOrginis is more exactly at this moment.
      It is not simply a matter of interest. It is difficult to get a 'pure' Mizrachi sample, certainly not in Israel. There are even doubts about MO's Sephardic sample. At this point, Atzmon's findings are probably the most appropriate. They are part of Gedmatch's Eurogenes analysis

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      • #4
        Originally posted by khazaria View Post
        sevi: Which Mizrahi community do you belong to?

        I have seen autosomal DNA results from Mizrahi Jews from Iraq, Iran, Azerbaijan, and Uzbekistan.
        I'm Mountain Jew(the same as Azerbaijan).

        Originally posted by josh w. View Post
        It is not simply a matter of interest. It is difficult to get a 'pure' Mizrachi sample, certainly not in Israel. There are even doubts about MO's Sephardic sample. At this point, Atzmon's findings are probably the most appropriate. They are part of Gedmatch's Eurogenes analysis
        I think its not a big deal to get shared autosomal of all Mizrahi.
        As project admin I can see that Mountain Jews have very tight FF matches among them, but also few matches between Iran/Iraq Jews.

        What are Atzmon's findings?

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        • #5
          This is my result from MyHeritage:
          Attached Files

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sevi View Post
            I'm Mountain Jew(the same as Azerbaijan).


            I think its not a big deal to get shared autosomal of all Mizrahi.
            As project admin I can see that Mountain Jews have very tight FF matches among them, but also few matches between Iran/Iraq Jews.

            What are Atzmon's findings?
            See Gedmatch Eurogenes spreadsheet for profiles of Iranian and Iraqi Jews from Atzmon. The big deal is to find Mizrachis who have not intermarried with other Jewish groups or non Jewish 'host' groups.
            Last edited by josh w.; 20th July 2017, 08:27 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by josh w. View Post
              See Gedmatch Eurogenes spreadsheet for profiles of Iranian and Iraqi Jews from Atzmon. The big deal is to find Mizrachis who have not intermarried with other Jewish groups or non Jewish 'host' groups.
              Did you mean Admixture (heritage) -> Eurogenes -> Eurogenes K13 -> spreadsheet?
              there is not Iraqi there
              Last edited by sevi; 20th July 2017, 11:31 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sevi View Post
                Did you mean Admixture (heritage) -> Eurogenes -> Eurogenes K13 -> spreadsheet?
                there is not Iraqi there
                Sorry, Atzmon's data are at: Atzmon, 2010,"Abraham's children in the genomic era...". Some of his samples were uploaded To Eurogenes but not the Iraqi sample

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sevi View Post
                  This is my result from MyHeritage:
                  dear sevi ,
                  you score huge greek
                  can you share your my origins 2.0 results
                  with kind regards
                  adam

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                    Attached Files

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                    • #11
                      wow very nice
                      results
                      thanks for sharing sevi
                      kind regards
                      adam


                      p.s

                      my friend in work was born in deghastan
                      but he is tat jewish .....
                      so it is very cool ...
                      high southern european element in both tests { ftdna and my heritage }

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kingjohn View Post
                        wow very nice
                        results
                        thanks for sharing sevi
                        kind regards
                        adam


                        p.s

                        my friend in work was born in deghastan
                        but he is tat jewish .....
                        so it is very cool ...
                        high southern european element in both tests { ftdna and my heritage }
                        Hello Adam,

                        Tat jewish and Mountain Jews names belong to the same community.I'm from Quba,Azerbaijan.Tats are Muslims.Mountain Jews speak in their language.

                        Best,Musayev

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by musayev View Post
                          Hello Adam,

                          Tat jewish and Mountain Jews names belong to the same community.I'm from Quba,Azerbaijan.Tats are Muslims.Mountain Jews speak in their language.

                          Best,Musayev
                          Musayev,

                          Mountain Jewish language "Juhuri" is more archaic than Tat language. So, I think Mountain Jews aren't speak in their language, they are both have the same geographic source of their language(Middle Persian).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sevi View Post
                            Musayev,

                            Mountain Jewish language "Juhuri" is more archaic than Tat language. So, I think Mountain Jews aren't speak in their language, they are both have the same geographic source of their language(Middle Persian).
                            Thank you for correction.I know that fact.You use more Hebrew words.
                            Naming of Mountain Jews as Tat was mistake of Soviet scholars
                            Last edited by musayev; 30th July 2017, 08:22 PM.

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                            • #15
                              wait a second
                              i am slow
                              musayev your my- heritage results from other forum is very different
                              from sevi results:
                              for example you score Scottish 11%
                              your Greek is much lower than sevi
                              another difference
                              sevi score huge mizrachi inline with persian- jewish origin before moving to Albania kingdom { not Albania in Balkan but Albania kingdom}

                              your south asian score are the very close

                              so let me get that straight sevi is tat and you are non -jewish azeri ?

                              with kind regards
                              for both of you
                              adam

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