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  • Sicilians/S. Italians/Greeks: post your results. How much Middle Eastern do you get?

    I am more or less 3/8 Sicilian (mostly Palermo, some Messina) and the rest is Polish, Portuguese, 1/16 Cape Verdean, and 1/8 Sardinian.

    I know all of my MENA is from my Sicilian side because my mother tested and she is just European and Sub-Saharan African (I score none, oddly, but we match as mother and son).

    I score:

    89% Europe (66% South, 23% East)
    6% Jewish diaspora (Ashkenazi)
    5% Eastern Middle East (Egypt, Levant)

    How much Middle Eastern do others score? I am especially interested in seeing Greek islanders and Sicilians. Which part of Sicily would score the most?

  • #2
    eastern middle east

    I show 7% eastern middle eastern.
    I have one grandparent from Sicily and another from Naples Italy.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by danielwin View Post
      I show 7% eastern middle eastern.
      I have one grandparent from Sicily and another from Naples Italy.
      Where in Sicily, if you don't mind me asking?

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      • #4
        30% Midddle Eastern, all Anatolian. Family from Abruzzo, and Calabria. My guess is grandparents would come back 60% ME.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Taz85 View Post
          30% Midddle Eastern, all Anatolian. Family from Abruzzo, and Calabria. My guess is grandparents would come back 60% ME.
          Are you entirely Abruzzese/Calabrese, or just one grandparent of each?

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          • #6
            Here at FTDNA:
            5% Eastern Middle East
            12% Asia Minor
            20% Southern European

            My Italian side comes from Polizzi Generosa (Sicily), Monteroduni, and Sulmona.

            At AncestryDNA:
            1% Middle East
            2% Caucasus
            < 1% Africa North
            31% Italy/Greece

            At 23andMe:
            0% Middle East
            0.1% North Africa
            19.3% Italian
            0.1% Iberian
            10.1% Broadly Southern European

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sikeliot View Post
              Are you entirely Abruzzese/Calabrese, or just one grandparent of each?
              Half. 1 grand parent from Pratola Peligna, Abruzzo, and 1 from Cosenza, Calabria.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Germanica View Post
                Here at FTDNA:
                5% Eastern Middle East
                12% Asia Minor
                20% Southern European

                My Italian side comes from Polizzi Generosa (Sicily), Monteroduni, and Sulmona.

                At AncestryDNA:
                1% Middle East
                2% Caucasus
                < 1% Africa North
                31% Italy/Greece

                At 23andMe:
                0% Middle East
                0.1% North Africa
                19.3% Italian
                0.1% Iberian
                10.1% Broadly Southern European
                How much Sicilian/southern Italian are you?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sikeliot View Post
                  How much Sicilian/southern Italian are you?
                  My grandmother was Italian so I'm 1/4. She only had one Sicilian branch. Her mother's side was from Monteroduni (Isernia, Molise), her father's side from Sulmona (L'Aquila, Abruzzo) and Polizzi Generosa (Sicily).

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                  • #10
                    Mother in Law's Results

                    My mother in law's parents were both from Calabria . Her father was born in San Demetrio Corone which has a high Albanian ethnic population still today.Her mother is from Celico. Her My Origins came back as..

                    Middle Eastern ..
                    Asia Minor 48%
                    Eastern Middle East 5%
                    North Africa 3%

                    European
                    Southern Europe 36%

                    Jewish Diaspora
                    Ashkenazi Diaspora 7%

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                    • #11
                      48% Western and Central Europe
                      34% Southern Europe
                      18% Asia Minor

                      My mother is half Sicilian (Valguarnera) and half Northern Italian.
                      Last edited by EWischmann; 24th March 2017, 08:29 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by EWischmann View Post
                        48% Western and Central Europe
                        34% Southern Europe
                        18% Asia Minor

                        My mother is half Sicilian (Valguarnera) and half Northern Italian.
                        Very interesting. Valguarnera is in Enna province, I've never seen a result from there. Do you have her GEDmatch ID or that of anyone fully from Enna? I'd be curious to see their results on any calculators.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sikeliot View Post
                          Very interesting. Valguarnera is in Enna province, I've never seen a result from there. Do you have her GEDmatch ID or that of anyone fully from Enna? I'd be curious to see their results on any calculators.
                          Both my grandmother's parents were from Enna, but she's no longer with us. My mom hasn't been tested yet, but my Italian ancestry is all from her side (my dad was French/English).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by EWischmann View Post
                            Both my grandmother's parents were from Enna, but she's no longer with us. My mom hasn't been tested yet, but my Italian ancestry is all from her side (my dad was French/English).
                            So if we assume most of the Asia Minor is from the Enna side, then the amount your grandmother might score would be over half.

                            I have thought for a while that the northeast and central part of Sicily are fairly isolated and have not changed much over the millennia, so it is likely your grandmother would retain a strongly West Asian genetic profile.

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                            • #15
                              Half Sicilian, Half Ashkenazi

                              Ashkenazi Diaspora - 41%
                              Southern Europe - 35%
                              Middle East - 23% (Asia Minor 18%, N. Africa 5%)
                              E. Central Africa - 1%

                              Maternal grandfather was from Monte San Guiliano (Erice).
                              Maternal grandmother was from Caltanissetta.
                              Last edited by bramsey; 27th March 2017, 04:43 PM.

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