Ancient Origins

[montagnoli]

Hello Montagnoli,

Looking your DNA results, I think your non- european percentage come from the Finland part. Little part of Finish DNA has strong native american native influence. Remember eskimo people come from region close to North Russia, Scandinavia...Furthermore, your Asia Minor one is quite commom for italian people. For any Italy part, from South to the North. Turkey, Lebanon, Syria and countries in that region has moderate to strong influence in italian DNA.

In that case, my 13% from Asia Minor are being considered as European, while my 5% from Finland are being considered as non-European. That's possible, but it seems odd for me...

[LadyAlaise]

So I posted this (below) last night; thinking I was in THIS Ancient Origins Thread *Self eye roll* so this is cross posted sorta; sorry I initially meant for my post to go here
I will freely admit I understand 'groupings' of more modern DNA vs./in comparison to history (Ancient Greece/Rome onward) and the movement of peoples over the last few hundred years and last 1,000 or so years, than I do these Ancient Origins and the groups there of.
So here are my parents Ancestry origins estimates (they tested 1st there then I transferred their kits to FTDNA) and their FTDNA results and my FTDNA myOrigin results and Ancient Origins (I have not tested anywhere else)
(And yes my parents are confirmed by DNA to be my folks lol despite the mis-matching in origins (so says FTDNA lol) )

Here is myOrigins;

97% European
50% British Isles
39% Western & Central European
3% Eastern European
3% Southern European
2% Finland & Northern Siberian
2% Central/South Asian
2% Central Asian

and my Ancient Origins:
10% Metal Age Invader (sounds like a swag sci-fi rock band lol)

44% Farmer (Where did I stick that plow?? Where'd those seeds go?)

46% Hunter-Gatherer (I can't throw a spear to save my life but I rock a bow and arrow )

0% non-European
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Here is my Mom's Ancestry estimates and FTDNA myOrigins and Ancient Origins;
On Paper trail she is Irish, Scottish, English, and UNKN
On AncestryDNA:
Europe 100%
Ireland 66%
Scandinavia 19%
Europe West 7%
Trace Regions 8%
Italy/Greece 5%
Great Britain 3%

On FTDNA:
100% European
79% British Isles
11% Scandinavia
10% Western & Central European

Her Ancient Origins;
13% Metal Age Invader
43% Farmer
44% Hunter-Gatherer
0% non-European
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Here is my Dad's Ancestry Estimates and myOrigins: Via Paper trail he is Acadian French from Canada, Irish (one of his great grams' parents were from IRE according to records), English, Basque, Mi'Kmaq, and WAY back Spanish and other French)
On AncestryDNA:
95% Europe
38% Great Britain
26% Iberian Peninsula
21% Europe West
10% Trace Regions
4% Italy/Greece
4% Ireland
1% Finland/Northwest Russia
<-1% European Jewish
5% Trace Regions
5% West Asia
5% Caucasus

On FTDNA he is
99% European
91 Western & Central European
6% Southern European
2% Finland & N. Siberian
1% New World
1% Native American

His Ancient Origins:
12% Metal Age Invader
51% Farmer
37% Hunter-Gatherer
0% non-European

[Dave123]

My Ancient Origins adds up to 101%, oddly.

46% Hunter-Gatherer
40% Farmer
15% Metal Age Invader

[jeapos88]

My ancient origins
9% Metal Age Invader
46% Farmer
45% Hunter-Gatherer

Mother
12% Metal Age Invader
43% Farmer
45% Hunter-Gatherer

Father
9% Metal Age Invader
45% Farmer
46% Hunter-Gatherer

[winner]

My ancientOrigins is:
Metal Age Invader: 9%
Farmer: 43%
Hunter-Gatherer: 28%
Non-European: 19%

My mother ancientOrigins is:
Metal Age Invader: 6%
Farmer: 32%
Hunter-Gatherer: 20%
Non-European: 41%

[Zayd]

Im Bangladeshi

FTdna Ancient European Origins:

Metal Age Invader 55%

Farmer 10%

Non European 35%

Ftdna My Origins:

Central/South Asian 85%
-South Central Asia 55%
-Central Asia 30%

East Asian 13%
-Southeast Asia 9%
-Northeast Asia 4%

Other 2%

[dave21286]

I have a question concerning the AO map. Do the circles with the garden trowels represent known ancient remains that match your specific DNA? 3 of the circles for me are in Germany, 1 in Northern Italy near the Swiss border, 1 in Luxembourg, 1 in the Basque region of Spain, 1 in Sweden, 1 in Russia and 2 in Hungary.

[notorious]

Ashkenazi Jewish

99% Ashkenazi Jewish (despite everyone in my known family being Jewish, I was pretty shocked by how homogeneous this was!)
1% trace regions (East Central Africa, South Central Asia, and West Middle East)

My Ancient Origins

23% Metal Age Invader
60% Farmer
15% Hunter-Gatherer
2% Non-European

[Frank Kelch]

I have a question concerning the AO map. Do the circles with the garden trowels represent known ancient remains that match your specific DNA? 3 of the circles for me are in Germany, 1 in Northern Italy near the Swiss border, 1 in Luxembourg, 1 in the Basque region of Spain, 1 in Sweden, 1 in Russia and 2 in Hungary.

I'm not sure what the circles mean, but mine are in the exact same location.

[josh w.]

Ashkenazi Jewish

99% Ashkenazi Jewish (despite everyone in my known family being Jewish, I was pretty shocked by how homogeneous this was!)
1% trace regions (East Central Africa, South Central Asia, and West Middle East)

My Ancient Origins

23% Metal Age Invader
60% Farmer
15% Hunter-Gatherer
2% Non-European

The result is fairly common given your background. Note that this does not imply that your lines are mainly from the Levant

[josh w.]

The result is fairly common given your background. Note that this does not imply that your lines are mainly from the Levant

The ancient Origins pattern is common for Ashkenazim. 'Farmer' points to Neolithic migration to Europe, mainly from Asia Minor. "Metal' could reflect the Caucasus, but more likely reflects Metal migration to Eastern Europe were it is quite common, e.g. Russia and Lithuania.

[khazaria]

My Ancient Origins

23% Metal Age Invader
60% Farmer
15% Hunter-Gatherer
2% Non-European

My Ancient Origins are identical to yours except my Metal Age Invader is 22% not 23%. The other three percentages are the same.

All 16 of my great-great-grandparents were Ashkenazim, but going back further generations there are genetic indications I have admixture from small proportions of Sephardi Jews, Mizrahi Jews, and Poles. I do not rely on the calculators; I also study the ethnic backgrounds of my matches.

[spruithean]

I have a question concerning the AO map. Do the circles with the garden trowels represent known ancient remains that match your specific DNA? 3 of the circles for me are in Germany, 1 in Northern Italy near the Swiss border, 1 in Luxembourg, 1 in the Basque region of Spain, 1 in Sweden, 1 in Russia and 2 in Hungary.

It's the locations of ancient remains that have been DNA tested.

[josh w.]

It's the locations of ancient remains that have been DNA tested.

This poses a problem for Jews. There is no Levantine sample in Ancient Origins, although the research on which it is based did have such a sample. Consequently no one has results indicating that they have Levantine origins. My Origins does have a Levantine component (western Middle East)

[josh w.]

This poses a problem for Jews. There is no Levantine sample in Ancient Origins, although the research on which it is based did have such a sample. Consequently no one has results indicating that they have Levantine origins. My Origins does have a Levantine component (western Middle East)

To elaborate, the basic research identified three independent Neolithic 'Farmer' locations, Asia Minor, Natufia (Levant) and Iran. Ancient Origins used only the Asia Minor sample since it had the greatest impact on Europe (except for Jews). Any one of the three samples could be called 'Farmer'. To confuse matters, the Iranian lines had some impact on 'Metal'