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  • asveda77
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    A heads-up- I did confirm with a gedmatch administrator that unless matches triangulate- this is an excess pile up region(all other matches are false)

    Thanks for your response!

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  • loisrp
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    Originally posted by asveda77 View Post
    I have another dilemma- I am receiving a large number of matches on Chrom 22 @ the same segment- many of these appear to be Spanish or Italian- and that marker area is showing Jewish on my paint brower on gedmatch. Could this be IBS- these sizes are generally 7-9cm in length. The segment area is between 18-22. My jewish ancestry barely registers otherwise.
    Have you tried triangulating them? Use a One to One comparison to check that A matches B, A matches C, B matches C, etc. for all permutations. This is probably a low-SNP region, and possibly a pileup region, so double-check that. I think Chromosome 22 matches are tricky.

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  • asveda77
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    I have another dilemma- I am receiving a large number of matches on Chrom 22 @ the same segment- many of these appear to be Spanish or Italian- and that marker area is showing Jewish on my paint brower on gedmatch. Could this be IBS- these sizes are generally 7-9cm in length. The segment area is between 18-22. My jewish ancestry barely registers otherwise.

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  • asveda77
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    I have found also that I have distant cousins from the Azores(Portuguese)

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  • winner
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    Originally posted by winner View Post
    That Mexican match knows about Sephardic ancestry. My known Jews ancestors are from 14th Century and the 15th Century.
    In the 16th Century, my ancestors are Conversos/Marranos, in Brazil. However, some of them returned to Judaism here. Therefore, the "holy inquisition" came to Brazil, in 1591.

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  • winner
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    Originally posted by asveda77 View Post
    So more recent Jewish ancestry should show both Ashkenazi & Sephardic matches with you. I'm assuming Sephardic Jewish might be hidden with Spanish matches also or even Italian.
    That Mexican match knows about Sephardic ancestry. My known Jews ancestors are from 14th Century and the 15th Century.

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  • asveda77
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    So more recent Jewish ancestry should show both Ashkenazi & Sephardic matches with you. I'm assuming Sephardic Jewish might be hidden with Spanish matches also or even Italian.

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  • winner
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    Originally posted by winner View Post
    Almost all my matches are from Spain, Portugal, the Azores, Madeira Island, Mexico, Cuba, Puerto Rico and Chile. I've got a interesting Ashkenazi match, from Poland. He is 100% Ashkenazi Diaspora, and we've got a common match from Mexico.
    I think he has Sephardic ancestry, because some Sephardic settled in Poland.

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  • winner
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    Originally posted by asveda77 View Post
    I have an interesting match list on Chrom 22- 19 iberian matches at almost identical lengths of 7-10cm! I'm not sure if this is what they call a " pile-up" region or someone fathered a lot of children. I also have a similar situation on chrom 15 with all the matches being finnish or lithuanian- though I do not have that ancestry so that could be a pile-up region also.
    Almost all my matches are from Spain, Portugal, the Azores, Madeira Island, Mexico, Cuba, Puerto Rico and Chile. I've got a interesting Ashkenazi match, from Poland. He is 100% Ashkenazi Diaspora, and we've got a common match from Mexico.

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  • asveda77
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    I have an interesting match list on Chrom 22- 19 iberian matches at almost identical lengths of 7-10cm! I'm not sure if this is what they call a " pile-up" region or someone fathered a lot of children. I also have a similar situation on chrom 15 with all the matches being finnish or lithuanian- though I do not have that ancestry so that could be a pile-up region also.

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  • vinnie
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    Another frustration: not being able to continually edit one's own post.

    Got a little mixed up above; the male is also too distant to see his MO; everything else is correct.

    But there are two other matches who share overlapping segments with each other on chromo 8, and my mother. One is too distant to see his MO, and he has listed only Italian names. The other guy shows AJ in his MO, and lists Italian, French, and Irish names, but none that seem to be Jewish.

    So out of her 57 matches, these four are the only ones who match her on that chromosome, and they make up two pairs of people who match with each other also. Wish I could check their list of matches.
    Last edited by vinnie; 16 April 2016, 09:55 PM.

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  • vinnie
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    It's incredibly frustrating not to be able to see all of the MO results for all of my matches. That said, I finally took the time to e-mail two of my mother's distant matches; one is close enough to show up in her MO list so I can see that he has some AJ, but he has no names listed other than his MDKA, neither of which seem to be Jewish. The other is too distant to see her MO, but she only has Spanish origin names. These two share with each other the same stretch of DNA on chromosome 8 that they share with my mother.

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  • winner
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    Originally posted by asveda77 View Post
    They both have maternal ancestry from Italy- but this is only documented back to the 1800's for one match. Since Italy was one of the places Sephardic Jews fled to following the reconquista of the 1490's from Spain & Portugal. However my mothers maternal ancestry is solidly east european in recent generations with no known ancestors from Italy.
    Thanks for replying my message. I am trying to do my mother's line genealogy, however, the priest didn't write my great great grandmother parents names, on marriage record. I am looking for to access the inventories of my ancestors to find her parents names.

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  • asveda77
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    They both have maternal ancestry from Italy- but this is only documented back to the 1800's for one match. Since Italy was one of the places Sephardic Jews fled to following the reconquista of the 1490's from Spain & Portugal. However my mothers maternal ancestry is solidly east european in recent generations with no known ancestors from Italy.

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  • winner
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    Originally posted by asveda77 View Post
    Hi,

    yes as someone who has some distant link to Sephardic Jewish through only an mtdna test and two Sephardic matches- these studies would interest me as well as any Iberian ancestry from my southern euro admixtures.
    Which countries are these two Sephardic matches from? I've got two Sephardic matches (HVR1 and HVR2), from Tunisia and Libya. I am Brazilian, and I am almost sure my direct maternal line is Jewish. I've got two exact matches, at the FMS level, from the Azores. Most of maternal lines are Africans and Indigenous, in Brazil. Few women came from Europe to Brazil, in the colonization time, and my direct maternal line came from Europe. Several women were convicted by "holy inquisition" because of Judaism, in Brazil.

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