Excited, my first My Origins results are in! These are for my son.

[jsarnacki]

Getting excited... my son's My Origins are in!
99% European
56% Western and Central European
12% British Isles
11% Eastern Europe
8% Southern Europe
6% Scandinavia
6% Finland and Northern Siberia

I love these results because they fit perfectly with our known family history. The only thing surprising is the Finland and Northern Siberia. No idea where that came from! Anyhow, my family is mostly from Germany, and some from Ireland, England, and Sicily. My husband's family is also from Poland and Norway (and more, but I have less info on them). So, I am impressed that the results matched what I know of our history. Sadly, it did NOT confirm the Native American history (as I hear is very common). We have always been told our direct ancestor Rachel Finney married a Cherokee Indian. It was far enough back I am not surprised it did not show in my son's test, but I am wondering if it will show up in mine. Interestingly enough, I was recently told two of her descendants from different sons tested, and it turns out they had different fathers... so the story could still be true and that I just don't descend from the Cherokee. There was another place on my tree I found another possible American Indian ancestor, but that family line is less known to me. I guess I will never know if the stories are true, unless I somehow talk my grandfather into taking a DNA test! Anyhow, I can't wait to start seeing matches in My Origins.

[grahcom]

Admixture results can be a bit of fun, but not to be taken too seriously, each of the many places you can check your origins will give varying results, many folk like to shop around until they get one that suits what they 'think' fits them. Try the reports at GEDmatch see how much they can vary. Each company/report use different reference populations etc database. I've got, Geno 1 & 2, FTDNA, 23&Me, Dr. McDonald and GEDmatch, all vary, yet all can fit if I want them to. They are all to be taken with a grain of salt.

[loudam]

My Dads are in too, Just slightly different to my own

My Dads

Europen 100%
British Isles 88%
Western and Central European 12%

My Own

European 100%
British Isles 96%
Western and Central European 4%

[Armando]

Admixture results can be a bit of fun, but not to be taken too seriously, each of the many places you can check your origins will give varying results, many folk like to shop around until they get one that suits what they 'think' fits them.Try the reports at GEDmatch see how much they can vary. Each company/report use different reference populations etc database. I've got, Geno 1 & 2, FTDNA, 23&Me, Dr. McDonald and GEDmatch, all vary, yet all can fit if I want them to. They are all to be taken with a grain of salt.

23andme has been the one that matches more people's ancestry and it has a much larger reference population, especially of people from western Europe, which is the the region of the ancestry of a majority of the people that get DNA tests.

FTDNA, none of the Gedmatch calculators, and I doubt Dr. McDonald have the number of reference samples that 23andme does and they have a very sound methodology.

[jsarnacki]

While percentages my vary, I tend to think my son's results are probably very accurate based on the known paper trail. My husband's side of the family is unknown beyond his grandparents, therefore it is quite possible there are some from the Finland/Scandinavian.

Just a note: My MIL did 23 and me, and I thought her results seemed much less clear. Perhaps it is because when I log into my son's, the huge map is highlighted with the results areas to give me an idea of WHY he would test the way he did... but I looked at my MIL's 23 and me results and felt it was a waste of money as far as ethnic percentages goes.

This is what I know about my son's results as they correlate to my family history:
56% Western and Central European: The vast majority of MY ancestors are German and some of my husband's are too, but we don't have the documentation for his side
12% British Isles: I have at least 2 branches from Ireland and 1-2 from England
11% Eastern Europe: This is my husband's side, his fathers family is Polish
8% Southern Europe: My Grandmother's father is Sicilian and supposedly Northern Italian as well, but I can't trace the Northern Italian yet
6% Scandinavia: Both my husband and I have ancestors from Norwar
6% Finland and Northern Siberia: Only unknowns

[jsarnacki]

I put my son's results into gedmatch to do their calculators, and the Amerindian DOES show up many of their calculators! So, I guess Great Grandma (to whatever number she is) Rachel DID have kids with a Cherokee Indian! My son't percentages are VERY small (0.27-0.57%), but I expected that since it was many generations ago. I wonder if mine will be high enough to trigger in the Family Finder MyOrigins. Anyhow, so far I am finding several "proof" matches to support my family tree! The Amerindian being just 1 of several I have been able to somewhat confirm.

[Taz85]

I put my son's results into gedmatch to do their calculators, and the Amerindian DOES show up many of their calculators! So, I guess Great Grandma (to whatever number she is) Rachel DID have kids with a Cherokee Indian! My son't percentages are VERY small (0.27-0.57%), but I expected that since it was many generations ago. I wonder if mine will be high enough to trigger in the Family Finder MyOrigins. Anyhow, so far I am finding several "proof" matches to support my family tree! The Amerindian being just 1 of several I have been able to somewhat confirm.

I wouldn't consider .27-.57 to be proof of anything. For example, I have zero history of native American in my family, yet I show at least 1% Amerindian on many calculaters,including Dr. McDonald analysis. The numbers you are seeing are most likely noise. A general rule of thumb really is at least 2% on several calculators to be considered real.


My Origins can go back over 1000 years. The tiny Ameridian is probably partially being picked up in my origins. The Siberian admixture.

[jsarnacki]

I wouldn't consider .27-.57 to be proof of anything. For example, I have zero history of native American in my family, yet I show at least 1% Amerindian on many calculaters,including Dr. McDonald analysis. The numbers you are seeing are most likely noise. A general rule of thumb really is at least 2% on several calculators to be considered real.


My Origins can go back over 1000 years. The tiny Ameridian is probably partially being picked up in my origins. The Siberian admixture.

I totally understand what you are saying, however when I did the "paper trail" calculation to figure out the percentage of American Indian that MIGHT show up in my children's DNA the number was similar. As I said, it was MANY generations back. I expect my numbers to be slightly higher when they come back as I am one generation closer. And I didn't say I took is as proof positive... just "somewhat" confirming what I know to be true and/or likely true. This was just one example of info I was looking for. You may say the low percentage is "noise" however it is the close to the percentage expected. For my son, he can be no more than 0.78% American Indian based on genetic distance from our Cherokee Ancestor. When my results come in, I expect them to be at approximately double Gabriel's amounts... but we will not get over 2% unless my Grandfather tests... his amount should be closer to 3.125%. So... for now... unless I do NOT show double the amount of Indian, I will assume the stories are true. I had a pretty good resource for my historical information anyway, my Grandfather is still alive and he was raised by HIS grandparents. The Cherokee would have been that person's grandfather, so the original source of information probably knew his Cherokee grandfather or at least received accurate information from his father. Again, not DNA proof positive, but enough evidence for me for the time being until my test comes back.

[andreastill.gen]

Yeah, you really need to be careful about that small percentage. We have absolutely NO North American Indian or anything close to it in our family and can document different lines in Germany and Austria going back anywhere from 1819 to 1335. Yet when I run results through various calculators various people in my family (8 people on different lines tested) get higher percentage results for NA Indian than that. As a previous poster stated, just be cautious.