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  • #76
    Originally posted by Sara View Post
    Me (full Italian from South: father Campania, mother Campania and Calabria):
    Southeast Europe 84%
    British Isles 10% (???)
    Jewish Diaspora Sephardic 5%
    East Middle East< 1%
    West Middle East< 1%
    (british isles does not appear in any other calculator on ethnicity percentage, I have no idea why it appear : any idea? )
    Sara, what does that 10% account for in other calculators?

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    • #77
      Originally posted by tatals View Post

      Sara, what does that 10% account for in other calculators?
      probably it goes under Italian... I originally tested with MyHeritage and the results are:

      Italiana 78,8%
      Greca e italiana meridionale 13,1%
      Nordafrica 5,4%
      Nigeriana 0,9% (this is also totally odd.....)
      Medio Oriente 1,8%

      this in my eurogenes K36, if you put together central europe+french+ north atlantic you reach about 11%, so this coul be the explanation? but if you do the same with other geografical areas as like arabian+near eastern + north african you got about 9% that doesn not appear in the estimate, so I am not sure it is a valid method.....I have no idea. I am aware this is all speculative, but the results are sometimes non sense.
      Well: While british Isles coul be explained with a bit of imagination by the Norse domination in italy in XIII century (anyhow 10% is almost one Grandgrandparent fully brit - and it does not make sense at all, aslo considering that Norse were a kind of scandinavian people), Nigerian is crazy. My mother does not show nor british nor Nigerian, so it is Odd.... :-) .

      Arabian2.78 Pct
      Armenian5.73 Pct
      Basque2.75 Pct
      Central_Euro4.20 Pct
      East_Balkan1.53 Pct
      East_Central_Euro1.32 Pct
      East_Med13.22 Pct
      French3.32 Pct
      Iberian9.71 Pct
      Italian27.52 Pct
      Near_Eastern5.43 Pct
      North_African1.97 Pct
      North_Atlantic4.73 Pct
      North_Caucasian2.66 Pct
      North_Sea3.57 Pct
      West_Caucasian2.36 Pct
      West_Med7.22 Pct

      DO you think it is because I uploaded the raw data from another company? do you think that taking an autosomal test with FTDNA could be more precise or should I espect similar results?

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Sara View Post

        probably it goes under Italian... I originally tested with MyHeritage and the results are:

        Italiana 78,8%
        Greca e italiana meridionale 13,1%
        Nordafrica 5,4%
        Nigeriana 0,9% (this is also totally odd.....)
        Medio Oriente 1,8%

        this in my eurogenes K36, if you put together central europe+french+ north atlantic you reach about 11%, so this coul be the explanation? but if you do the same with other geografical areas as like arabian+near eastern + north african you got about 9% that doesn not appear in the estimate, so I am not sure it is a valid method.....I have no idea. I am aware this is all speculative, but the results are sometimes non sense.
        Well: While british Isles coul be explained with a bit of imagination by the Norse domination in italy in XIII century (anyhow 10% is almost one Grandgrandparent fully brit - and it does not make sense at all, aslo considering that Norse were a kind of scandinavian people), Nigerian is crazy. My mother does not show nor british nor Nigerian, so it is Odd.... :-) .

        Arabian2.78 Pct
        Armenian5.73 Pct
        Basque2.75 Pct
        Central_Euro4.20 Pct
        East_Balkan1.53 Pct
        East_Central_Euro1.32 Pct
        East_Med13.22 Pct
        French3.32 Pct
        Iberian9.71 Pct
        Italian27.52 Pct
        Near_Eastern5.43 Pct
        North_African1.97 Pct
        North_Atlantic4.73 Pct
        North_Caucasian2.66 Pct
        North_Sea3.57 Pct
        West_Caucasian2.36 Pct
        West_Med7.22 Pct

        DO you think it is because I uploaded the raw data from another company? do you think that taking an autosomal test with FTDNA could be more precise or should I espect similar results?
        Well, the Nigerian percentual is probably just noise. It's a trace result, too little to actually mean anything. It's probably residual from North Africa.

        The British Isles is another matter. I have a problem like that, FTDNA gives me 70% West/Central Europe and no Portuguese, while MyHeritage gives me 22.5% Portuguese, which is more accurate. Also, I have 9% Scandinavian acoording to MH, which could or not make sense, but it would be more logical if those were BI. If you had any Iberian in you, I'd say that and the BI thing were linked, but you seem to be really Italian, haha. I have no actual explanation other than estimate and the fact that each company has different methods and databases.

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        • #79
          Hi Tatals,
          basically I can't find any trace of this British Isles background in any gedmatch Calculator, here you find my results on the main calculator good for italians. There is nothing beyond Alps (beside ashkenazi jews, but they are a mix of mediterranean), so I have no idea where does the British Isles come from . Maybe are the British who have italian in their DNA? :-) consider that roman legions were in Britannia....
          EuTestK15
          1 Tuscan @ 4.720913
          2 West_Sicilian @ 6.032199
          3 Italian_Abruzzo @ 6.512197
          4 East_Sicilian @ 8.890327
          5 Central_Greek @ 9.615071
          6 South_Italian @ 10.462873
          7 Greek_Thessaly @ 10.827275
          8 Greek @ 11.439677
          9 North_Italian @ 11.851427
          10 Ashkenazi @ 11.924245
          11 Italian_Jewish @ 13.820602
          12 Sephardic_Jewish @ 15.661249
          13 Algerian_Jewish @ 15.812867
          14 Bulgarian @ 17.578732
          15 Romanian @ 19.149620
          16 Spanish_Extremadura @ 19.675390
          17 Portuguese @ 19.997763
          18 Spanish_Murcia @ 20.046900
          19 Spanish_Andalucia @ 20.300148
          20 Tunisian_Jewish @ 20.389603
          Eurogenes K13
          1 Tuscan @ 4.849759
          2 West_Sicilian @ 5.099934
          3 Italian_Abruzzo @ 6.189978
          4 East_Sicilian @ 10.440997
          5 Central_Greek @ 10.569977
          6 South_Italian @ 10.938791
          7 Greek_Thessaly @ 11.602209
          8 North_Italian @ 11.861886
          9 Ashkenazi @ 14.377904
          10 Sephardic_Jewish @ 16.461147
          11 Italian_Jewish @ 16.486006
          12 Algerian_Jewish @ 17.463953
          13 Bulgarian @ 19.383286
          14 Spanish_Extremadura @ 20.447845
          15 Romanian @ 20.480627
          16 Spanish_Andalucia @ 20.985140
          17 Portuguese @ 20.988672
          18 Tunisian_Jewish @ 21.502932
          19 Spanish_Murcia @ 21.550308
          20 Libyan_Jewish @ 21.882181
          MDLP K23
          1 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 4.407294
          2 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 5.656333
          3 Sicilian_West_ @ 5.731602
          4 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 5.937141
          5 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 6.008426
          6 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 7.105980
          7 Greek_Northwest_ @ 7.473213
          8 Ashkenazi_ @ 7.677734
          9 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 7.760661
          10 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 8.053606
          11 Sicilian_East_ @ 8.192042
          12 Italian_Piedmont_ @ 8.415603
          13 Maltese_ @ 8.426469
          14 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 8.621147
          15 Central_Greek_ @ 8.651256
          16 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 8.654496
          17 Kosovar_ @ 9.062423
          18 Romanian_Jew_ @ 9.708492
          19 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 9.749907
          20 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.873123
          MDLP World 22
          1 Greek_South_derived @ 3.121768
          2 Greek_Center_derived @ 3.524965
          3 Greek_North_derived @ 4.181461
          4 Greek_East_derived @ 4.521333
          5 Jew_Romania_derived @ 5.669569
          6 Italian-Center_derived @ 5.704431
          7 Ashkenazim_V_derived @ 6.729502
          8 Italian-South_derived @ 7.578702
          9 Sicilian_derived @ 9.694482
          10 Italian-North_derived @ 12.087720
          11 Greek_Cretan_derived @ 13.458627
          12 Kosovar_derived @ 15.046485
          13 Ashkenazim_derived @ 15.143652
          14 Corsican_derived @ 15.472718
          15 Gagauz_derived @ 15.763866
          16 Jew_Francestrale_derived @ 16.331800
          17 Romania_derived @ 16.852169
          18 Jew_Italia_derived @ 17.175144
          19 Italian_North_derived @ 17.395479
          20 Greek_Azov_derived @ 17.651756
          Dodecad V3
          1 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 6.319379
          2 Tuscan_Xing @ 7.212692
          3 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 7.514165
          4 Tuscan_Henn @ 8.241980
          5 TSI_HapMap @ 8.308012
          6 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 10.310927
          7 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 12.450524
          8 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 14.289216
          9 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 15.236741
          10 Tuscan_HGDP @ 16.049692
          11 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 17.811447
          12 Greek_Dodecad @ 17.916594
          13 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 18.258200
          14 S_Italian_Dodecad @ 19.017729
          15 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 20.286961
          16 Romanians_14_Behar @ 20.792891
          17 North_Italian_HGDP @ 22.330923
          18 Balkans_Dodecad @ 25.999968
          19 Turkish_Dodecad @ 27.170876
          20 Stalskoe_Xing @ 27.224964
          Dodecad K12B
          1 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 5.349689
          2 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 6.029334
          3 Tuscan_HGDP @ 8.101900
          4 TSI30_Metspalu @ 8.324533
          5 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 10.291010
          6 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 10.302905
          7 Greek_Dodecad @ 11.250401
          8 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 13.750182
          9 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 13.982659
          10 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 14.285881
          11 North_Italian_HGDP @ 15.303672
          12 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 17.076262
          13 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 17.619392
          14 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 20.578707
          15 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 20.875826
          16 Romanians_Behar @ 21.523409
          17 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 23.981367
          18 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 25.367498
          19 Canarias_1000Genomes @ 25.418001
          20 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 25.534920
          Gedrosia K12
          1 Sicilian @ 6.586555
          2 Greek @ 7.384583
          3 Turks_Istanbul @ 20.703815
          4 Turks_Aydin @ 24.504736
          5 Turks_Balikesir @ 26.581207
          6 Turks_Adana @ 27.490255
          7 Iraqi_Chaldeans @ 28.829323
          8 Turks_Kayseri @ 28.840542
          9 Iraqi_Jew @ 29.071365
          10 Kurds_N @ 29.977818
          11 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad @ 30.118696
          12 Kurds_C @ 30.725172
          13 Iraqi_Mandaeans @ 31.551254
          14 Kurds_F @ 31.908510
          15 Armenian @ 33.061958
          16 Kurds_E @ 33.155861
          17 Assyrian @ 33.694214
          18 Jordanian @ 33.861073
          19 Syrian @ 35.173378
          20 Iranian @ 38.701050
          PUNTDNAL K13
          1 Tuscan @ 4.651220
          2 Greek @ 6.972493
          3 Sicilian_West @ 7.456133
          4 Albanian @ 7.547027
          5 Sicilian_East @ 10.075713
          6 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 10.740112
          7 Italian_Bergamo @ 11.055001
          8 Spanish_Canaries @ 12.511879
          9 Spanish_Southwest @ 13.142857
          10 Bulgarian @ 13.584915
          11 Turkish_Jew @ 14.192978
          12 Moroccan_Jew @ 14.642178
          13 Spanish_Northeast @ 16.724400
          14 Romanian @ 17.172888
          15 French @ 17.909077
          16 Libyan_Jew @ 19.155819
          17 Croatian @ 19.377111
          18 Belgian @ 20.251173
          19 Turkish_Aydin @ 21.040773
          20 Tunisian_Jew @ 21.465107
          MDLP K16
          1 Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.833775
          2 Greek_Greece @ 4.275591
          3 Albanian_Albania @ 4.783052
          4 Greek_Thessaloniki @ 4.863748
          5 Sicilian_Sicily @ 5.094520
          6 Italian_SouthItaly @ 5.134250
          7 Greek_Peloponnes @ 5.383167
          8 Greek_Athens @ 6.299929
          9 Italian_Tuscany @ 6.596147
          10 Kosovar_Kosovo @ 6.856647
          11 Greek_Macedonia @ 6.906739
          12 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 7.534346
          13 Maltese_Malta @ 7.585234
          14 Jew_Ashkenazim @ 8.014329
          15 Gagauz_Gagauzia @ 9.060286
          16 Greek_Greece @ 9.271859
          17 Italian_NorthIitaly @ 9.321787
          18 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 9.788599
          19 Jew_Belmonte @ 10.231051
          20 Jew_Bulgaria @ 10.587442

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