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  • Rafael Fernandes
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    Originally posted by robe3b View Post
    Josh and Rafael, having read your comments, I think I should clarify my previous ones. To me the real issue is not whether I have or have not any Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry; this is totally irrelevant to me, as the many Ashkenazi "cousins" I've found both on Family Finder and Gedmatch came out totally unexpected. Still, it seems I'm the one to be blamed for this misunderstandig, as I mixed percentages of Middle Eastern ancestry up with having surprisingly many Ashkenazi cousins. The issue here is the sharp differences in ancestry estimates between PF and myOrigins, from 14.38% to 1% Middle Eastern ethnic ancestry. I should add that the same thing has happened with my Native American percentage. PF gave me an astonishing high estimate of NA ethnic ancestry (36.4%); myOrigins has brought it down to 31% (23% Beringian Expansion plus 8% Asian Northeast. Anyway, I've decided to give FTDNA the benefice of the doubt; perhaps they're right now, and I really am 66% European (Mediterranean Basin, the whole of it), 31% NA, 1% Middle Eastern, 1% African and 1% unassigned). It makes sense, as I'm South American
    As I said previously, the fact that your Middle Eastern ancestry has fallen from the older program to the new one may be due to the fact that the older one's ability to measure Southern European ancestry was more limited. Population Finder was identifying many people from Southern Europe -- specially those of Italian or Greek ancestry -- as being as much as 50% Middle Eastern, for lacking samples that accurately represented their ancestry. In the case of people with Southern European blood, this may mean having inflated results in both the North European and Middle Eastern clusters because these are the ancestral components closest to the Southern European one. It was frequent to see a South Italian, for example, being guessed as 50% Western European and 50% Middle Eastern, or a Portuguese person being guessed as 80% Western European and 20% Mozabite. My results went through the same as yours, albeit less dramatically; my Middle Eastern percentage has fallen from 24% in PF to 16% in myOrigins, and I have little doubt that this is because of myOrigin's greater accuracy.

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  • kiiski
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    Originally posted by JuanCarlos View Post
    His results are interesting, to say the least, since they provide a window into what may be the original genetic composition of people who are, or were, fully Native American. As we can see, that population already had North Circumpolar, which is European and mostly found in Finland, and Central/South-Asian-Eurasian Heartland combination, in addition to other components you would expect.
    I wouldn't draw such definite conclusions based on this one result. It doesn't quite match what published research says about the genetic composition of Native Americans, either. For example, in Lazaridis et al. 2013 the "Ancient North Eurasian" component, that is shared by Europeans and Native Americans, is found throughout Europe and at a maximum in Estonians, Scots, Hungarians and Lithuanians. In addition to this, Finns and some other Uralic populations have more recent Siberian admixture (which isn't reflected in MyOrigins).

    Ideally there should be one calculator for ancient events like these, and another one that reflects historical population movements in the last few hundred years (presumably most FTDNA customers are more interested in the latter). In practice it's hard to fully separate ancient and recent events, but the current MyOrigins seems to not even try.

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  • vinnie
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    Originally posted by Taz85 View Post
    Vinnie, your Jewish ancestry also seems non Ashkenazi
    My father's was likely ancient (especially given our y haplogroup), predating modern splits between Jewish groups. My mom's was probably more recent (as well as ancient), but not recent enough to show up in FF.

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  • Couscous Nomad
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    @vinnie &Taz85

    I think Taz85 used Oracle not Oracle 4,notice the #Primary Population & Secondary Population that don't show up when running Oracle 4,on the other hand vinnie used Oracle 4.
    Last edited by Couscous Nomad; 11 May 2014, 10:51 AM. Reason: Oracle 4 not X

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  • Taz85
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    Originally posted by vinnie View Post
    My dad's results; he shows no JD in MO.

    MDLP World
    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 42.75
    2 Caucaus_Parsia 22.64
    3 Middle_East 22.07
    4 North_and_East_European 12.22

    Dodecad World9 & Oracle 4

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 38.49
    2 Southern 37.00
    3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 24.50

    1 50% North_Italian +50% Cypriots @ 0.591
    2 50% N_Italian +50% Cypriots @ 1.476
    3 50% French +50% Samaritians @ 1.500
    4 50% C_Italian +50% S_Italian @ 1.605
    5 50% Greek +50% Sicilian @ 1.684
    6 50% Georgia_Jews +50% Aragon @ 1.838
    7 50% French +50% Samaritians @ 1.956
    8 50% C_Italian +50% S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.984
    9 50% Druze +50% Cataluna @ 2.024
    10 50% Greek +50% S_Italian_Sicilian @ 2.031

    Harappa & Oracle 4

    1 Caucasian 33.48
    2 Mediterranean 27.99
    3 NE-Euro 18.41
    4 SW-Asian 12.20
    5 Baloch 7.93

    1 50% cypriot +50% italian @ 2.977
    2 50% sephardic-jew +50% tuscan @ 3.034
    3 50% sephardic-jew +50% tuscan @ 3.069
    4 50% ashkenazy-jew +50% tuscan @ 3.095
    5 50% sephardic-jew +50% tuscan @ 3.182
    6 50% ashkenazy-jew +50% tuscan @ 3.281
    7 50% ashkenazy-jew +50% tuscan @ 3.533
    8 50% druze +50% spaniard @ 3.597
    9 50% druze +50% spaniard @ 3.799
    10 50% lebanese-druze +50% spaniard @ 4.370

    Dodecad K12b & Oracle 4

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 37.12
    2 Atlantic_Med 31.21
    3 North_European 13.36
    4 Southwest_Asian 10.36
    5 Gedrosia 5.24
    6 Northwest_African 2.71

    1 50% Cypriots +50% N_Italian @ 2.278
    2 50% Cypriots +50% North_Italian @ 2.408
    3 50% S_Italian_Sicilian +50% Sicilian @ 2.931
    4 50% Sicilian +50% Sicilian @ 3.046
    5 50% S_Italian_Sicilian +50% S_Italian_Sicilian @ 3.159
    6 50% Ashkenazy_Jews +50% C_Italian @ 3.212
    7 50% C_Italian +50% S_Italian_Sicilian @ 3.285
    8 50% C_Italian +50% Sicilian @ 3.365
    9 50% Ashkenazi +50% C_Italian @ 3.508
    10 50% Sephardic_Jews +50% Tuscan @ 3.513
    Vinnie, your Jewish ancestry also seems non Ashkenazi

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  • Taz85
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    Originally posted by josh w. View Post
    Your Jewish background might not be Ashkenazi. So far JD appears to be limited to Ashkenazis. Yes, it needs work
    It's most likely not Ashkenazi. If I take what I know from Myorigins and take the calculators on gedmatch, most likely Jewish ancestry is from Ancient Turkey or Assryian

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  • vinnie
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    My dad's results; he shows no JD in MO.

    MDLP World
    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 42.75
    2 Caucaus_Parsia 22.64
    3 Middle_East 22.07
    4 North_and_East_European 12.22

    Dodecad World9 & Oracle 4

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 38.49
    2 Southern 37.00
    3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 24.50

    1 50% North_Italian +50% Cypriots @ 0.591
    2 50% N_Italian +50% Cypriots @ 1.476
    3 50% French +50% Samaritians @ 1.500
    4 50% C_Italian +50% S_Italian @ 1.605
    5 50% Greek +50% Sicilian @ 1.684
    6 50% Georgia_Jews +50% Aragon @ 1.838
    7 50% French +50% Samaritians @ 1.956
    8 50% C_Italian +50% S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.984
    9 50% Druze +50% Cataluna @ 2.024
    10 50% Greek +50% S_Italian_Sicilian @ 2.031

    Harappa & Oracle 4

    1 Caucasian 33.48
    2 Mediterranean 27.99
    3 NE-Euro 18.41
    4 SW-Asian 12.20
    5 Baloch 7.93

    1 50% cypriot +50% italian @ 2.977
    2 50% sephardic-jew +50% tuscan @ 3.034
    3 50% sephardic-jew +50% tuscan @ 3.069
    4 50% ashkenazy-jew +50% tuscan @ 3.095
    5 50% sephardic-jew +50% tuscan @ 3.182
    6 50% ashkenazy-jew +50% tuscan @ 3.281
    7 50% ashkenazy-jew +50% tuscan @ 3.533
    8 50% druze +50% spaniard @ 3.597
    9 50% druze +50% spaniard @ 3.799
    10 50% lebanese-druze +50% spaniard @ 4.370

    Dodecad K12b & Oracle 4

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 37.12
    2 Atlantic_Med 31.21
    3 North_European 13.36
    4 Southwest_Asian 10.36
    5 Gedrosia 5.24
    6 Northwest_African 2.71

    1 50% Cypriots +50% N_Italian @ 2.278
    2 50% Cypriots +50% North_Italian @ 2.408
    3 50% S_Italian_Sicilian +50% Sicilian @ 2.931
    4 50% Sicilian +50% Sicilian @ 3.046
    5 50% S_Italian_Sicilian +50% S_Italian_Sicilian @ 3.159
    6 50% Ashkenazy_Jews +50% C_Italian @ 3.212
    7 50% C_Italian +50% S_Italian_Sicilian @ 3.285
    8 50% C_Italian +50% Sicilian @ 3.365
    9 50% Ashkenazi +50% C_Italian @ 3.508
    10 50% Sephardic_Jews +50% Tuscan @ 3.513

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  • vinnie
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    Taz85, here are my mother's results; she shows 6% JD in MO. There may be some discrepancies between our posts depending on whether Oracle or Oracle 4 was used, but I kept mine to 2 pops to match yours.

    MDLP World
    Caucasus Parsia 21.59%
    Middle East 24.49%
    South and West European 40.65%
    Sub Saharian 1.79%
    North and East European 10.67%

    Dodecad World9 & Oracle 4
    African 1.76%
    Atlantic_Baltic 32.84%
    Caucasus_Gedrosia 25.30%
    Southern 39.15%

    1 50% Greek +50% Morocco_Jews @ 1.084
    2 50% Greek +50% Sephardic_Jews @ 1.654
    3 50% Sicilian +50% Sephardic_Jews @ 1.745
    4 50% S_Italian_Sicilian +50% Sephardic_Jews @ 1.860
    5 50% Ashkenazy_Jews +50% Sephardic_Jews @ 1.873
    6 50% Georgia_Jews +50% Canarias @ 2.041
    7 50% Sardinian +50% Armenians @ 2.151
    8 50% S_Italian +50% Sephardic_Jews @ 2.245
    9 50% Ashkenazi +50% S_Italian @ 2.272
    10 50% Armenian +50% Sardinian @ 2.306

    Harappa & Oracle 4
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 34.85
    2 Mediterranean 24.84
    3 SW-Asian 15.61
    4 NE-Euro 15.47
    5 Baloch 6.48
    6 W-African 1.55
    7 American 1.19
    1 50% ashkenazi +50% sephardic-jew @ 2.548
    2 50% ashkenazy-jew +50% ashkenazy-jew @ 2.558
    3 50% italian +50% lebanese-christian @ 3.060
    4 50% ashkenazi +50% morocco-jew @ 3.498
    5 50% ashkenazi +50% ashkenazy-jew @ 3.530
    6 50% lebanese +50% tuscan @ 3.849
    7 50% ashkenazy-jew +50% sephardic-jew @ 3.926
    8 50% italian +50% samaritian @ 3.981
    9 50% lebanese +50% tuscan @ 4.005
    10 50% italian +50% lebanese-druze @ 4.014

    Dodecad K12b
    #Primary Population Secondary Population
    1 88.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.1% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.83
    2 63.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 36.9% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.92
    3 87.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 12.9% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.08
    4 86% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.14
    5 88.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.2% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 2.26
    6 87.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 12.1% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.26
    7 88.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.31
    8 82.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 17.8% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.37
    9 89.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.37
    10 56.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 43.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.47
    11 90.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.49
    12 90.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.54
    13 53.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 46.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.56
    14 94% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 6% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 2.57
    15 92.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 7.4% Yemenese (Behar) @ 2.57
    16 92.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 7.4% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 2.61
    17 82% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 18% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.65
    18 90.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.67
    19 69.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 30.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.68
    20 89.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 10.3% Samaritians (Behar) @ 2.69

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  • josh w.
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    Originally posted by Taz85 View Post
    MyOrigin's shows no Jewish origins for me at all. Yet every single calculator on Gedmatch lists it as a #1 admixture, and including the same populations. These are just a few of the many. MyOrigin's is totally inconsistent for me. I could go through every single calculator but you get the idea.. The JD component needs serious work.

    MDLP World
    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 41.79
    2 North_and_East_European 36.35
    3 Caucaus_Parsia 11.07
    4 Middle_East 8.8
    1 79.9% German-North + 20.1% Jew_Syria @ 0.67
    2 62.8% Sorb + 37.2% Italian-Center @ 0.74
    3 65.2% Sorb + 34.8% Italian-South @ 0.82

    Dodecad World
    Population
    Amerindian 0.86%
    East_Asian 0.32%
    African 0.21%
    Atlantic_Baltic 63.66%
    Australasian -
    Siberian -
    Caucasus_Gedrosia 17.39%
    Southern 17.01%
    South_Asian 0.55%
    1 79.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 20.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.58
    2 79% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 21% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.65
    3 82.3% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 17.7% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.66
    4 79.4% Irish (Dodecad) + 20.6% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.68
    5 76.9% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 23.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.7
    6 83% German (Dodecad) + 17% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.71
    7 79.9% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 20.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.72
    8 83.1% Kent (1000 Genomes) + 16.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.73
    9 82.2% Kent (1000 Genomes) + 17.8% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.73
    10 82.3% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 17.7% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 0.75
    11 82.2% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 17.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.76
    12 83.2% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 16.8% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.78
    13 81.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 18.1% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.79
    14 82.1% Kent (1000 Genomes) + 17.9% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 0.8
    15 80.7% Orcadian (HGDP) + 19.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.8

    Harappa World
    Population
    S-Indian 0.16%
    Baloch 7.44%
    Caucasian 16.89%
    NE-Euro 45.42%
    SE-Asian 0.59%
    Siberian -
    NE-Asian -
    Papuan -
    American 0.45%
    Beringian -
    Mediterranean 24.90%
    SW-Asian 4.01%
    San -
    E-African -
    Pygmy -
    W-African 0.10%
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90.8% hungarian (behar) + 9.2% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 1.06
    2 90.8% hungarian (behar) + 9.2% morocco-jew (behar) @ 1.1
    3 89.2% hungarian (behar) + 10.8% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 1.15
    4 88.2% hungarian (behar) + 11.8% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 1.19
    5 85.7% hungarian (behar) + 14.3% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 1.27
    6 92.5% hungarian (behar) + 7.5% cypriot (behar) @ 1.42
    7 54.5% tuscan (hapmap) + 45.5% lithuanian (behar) @ 1.53
    8 80.6% slovenian (xing) + 19.4% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 1.63
    9 93.7% hungarian (behar) + 6.3% samaritian (behar) @ 1.63

    Dodecad k12b

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 81.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 18.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.78
    2 82% Kent (1000Genomes) + 18% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.79
    3 84.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 15.2% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.83
    4 81.9% Kent (1000Genomes) + 18.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.83
    5 81.5% English (Dodecad) + 18.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.83
    6 82.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 17.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.83
    7 81.2% Dutch (Dodecad) + 18.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 0.84
    8 52.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 47.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 0.85
    9 81.4% English (Dodecad) + 18.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.86
    10 79.3% Argyll (1000Genomes) + 20.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.87
    11 80% British (Dodecad) + 20% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.88
    12 82.7% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 17.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.89
    13 83.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 16.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.9
    14 79.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 20.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.91
    15 83% Kent (1000Genomes) + 17% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.91
    16 57.5% Romanians (Behar) + 42.5% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 0.92
    17 83.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 16.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.92
    18 82% Kent (1000Genomes) + 18% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 0.92
    19 80.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 19.1% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.92
    20 57.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 42.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 0.92
    Your Jewish background might not be Ashkenazi. So far JD appears to be limited to Ashkenazis. Yes, it needs work

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  • Taz85
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    MyOrigin's shows no Jewish origins for me at all. Yet every single calculator on Gedmatch lists it as a #1 admixture, and including the same populations. These are just a few of the many. MyOrigin's is totally inconsistent for me. I could go through every single calculator but you get the idea.. The JD component needs serious work.

    MDLP World
    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 41.79
    2 North_and_East_European 36.35
    3 Caucaus_Parsia 11.07
    4 Middle_East 8.8
    1 79.9% German-North + 20.1% Jew_Syria @ 0.67
    2 62.8% Sorb + 37.2% Italian-Center @ 0.74
    3 65.2% Sorb + 34.8% Italian-South @ 0.82

    Dodecad World
    Population
    Amerindian 0.86%
    East_Asian 0.32%
    African 0.21%
    Atlantic_Baltic 63.66%
    Australasian -
    Siberian -
    Caucasus_Gedrosia 17.39%
    Southern 17.01%
    South_Asian 0.55%
    1 79.4% Orcadian (HGDP) + 20.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.58
    2 79% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 21% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.65
    3 82.3% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 17.7% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.66
    4 79.4% Irish (Dodecad) + 20.6% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.68
    5 76.9% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 23.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.7
    6 83% German (Dodecad) + 17% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.71
    7 79.9% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 20.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.72
    8 83.1% Kent (1000 Genomes) + 16.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.73
    9 82.2% Kent (1000 Genomes) + 17.8% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.73
    10 82.3% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 17.7% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 0.75
    11 82.2% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 17.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.76
    12 83.2% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 16.8% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.78
    13 81.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 18.1% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.79
    14 82.1% Kent (1000 Genomes) + 17.9% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 0.8
    15 80.7% Orcadian (HGDP) + 19.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.8

    Harappa World
    Population
    S-Indian 0.16%
    Baloch 7.44%
    Caucasian 16.89%
    NE-Euro 45.42%
    SE-Asian 0.59%
    Siberian -
    NE-Asian -
    Papuan -
    American 0.45%
    Beringian -
    Mediterranean 24.90%
    SW-Asian 4.01%
    San -
    E-African -
    Pygmy -
    W-African 0.10%
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90.8% hungarian (behar) + 9.2% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 1.06
    2 90.8% hungarian (behar) + 9.2% morocco-jew (behar) @ 1.1
    3 89.2% hungarian (behar) + 10.8% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 1.15
    4 88.2% hungarian (behar) + 11.8% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 1.19
    5 85.7% hungarian (behar) + 14.3% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 1.27
    6 92.5% hungarian (behar) + 7.5% cypriot (behar) @ 1.42
    7 54.5% tuscan (hapmap) + 45.5% lithuanian (behar) @ 1.53
    8 80.6% slovenian (xing) + 19.4% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 1.63
    9 93.7% hungarian (behar) + 6.3% samaritian (behar) @ 1.63

    Dodecad k12b

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 81.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 18.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.78
    2 82% Kent (1000Genomes) + 18% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.79
    3 84.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 15.2% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.83
    4 81.9% Kent (1000Genomes) + 18.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.83
    5 81.5% English (Dodecad) + 18.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.83
    6 82.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 17.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.83
    7 81.2% Dutch (Dodecad) + 18.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 0.84
    8 52.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 47.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 0.85
    9 81.4% English (Dodecad) + 18.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.86
    10 79.3% Argyll (1000Genomes) + 20.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.87
    11 80% British (Dodecad) + 20% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.88
    12 82.7% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 17.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.89
    13 83.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 16.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 0.9
    14 79.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 20.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.91
    15 83% Kent (1000Genomes) + 17% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 0.91
    16 57.5% Romanians (Behar) + 42.5% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 0.92
    17 83.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 16.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.92
    18 82% Kent (1000Genomes) + 18% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 0.92
    19 80.9% Irish (Dodecad) + 19.1% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.92
    20 57.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 42.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 0.92
    Last edited by Taz85; 10 May 2014, 11:09 PM.

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  • sicilianu101
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    Originally posted by vinnie View Post
    Your N. African Crossroads is a little higher than most other 4-grandparent Italians, but overall your results are right in line with what I've been seeing in the Italy Project. If you haven't yet joined the Italy and Sicily Projects (based on your forum name), please consider doing so.
    Interesting. I am in the Sicily group as well as some other groups in ftdna. Is there a place where you can view people's results in the projects?

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  • grahcom
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    I can't get over how many people think admixture results are absolutely correct, perhaps they should consider reading this article (or the many more like it) : http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/YourG...m_medium=email quote "7. I appreciated the fact that Kenny emphasized that the ethnicity information is an ESTIMATE. It is important that we all remember that the science that each company uses to give us our admixture is still in it's infancy and that each company uses different reference populations to do so. It behooves all of us to take this information with a grain of salt no matter which company we test with."

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  • vinnie
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    Your N. African Crossroads is a little higher than most other 4-grandparent Italians, but overall your results are right in line with what I've been seeing in the Italy Project. If you haven't yet joined the Italy and Sicily Projects (based on your forum name), please consider doing so.

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  • sicilianu101
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    I am 100% Sicilian and can trace all ancestors to at least 4 generations to the village of Alcara Li Fusi.
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  • JuanCarlos
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    Originally posted by rdegnen View Post
    A friend from Puebla, Mexico, who is mostly of not entirely Indigenous, got these results. Population Finder 98.8% Native American-Maya. Origins results; New World-Bering Expansion 63%, East Asian-Asian Northeast 21%, European-North Circumpolar 10%, Central/South Asian-Eurasian Heartland 7%. All his ancestry is Mexican. Family oral tradition says Azteca.
    His results are interesting, to say the least, since they provide a window into what may be the original genetic composition of people who are, or were, fully Native American. As we can see, that population already had North Circumpolar, which is European and mostly found in Finland, and Central/South-Asian-Eurasian Heartland combination, in addition to other components you would expect.

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