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    Hello,

    Recently took a Family Finder test and found a relationship to a 5th cousin, twice removed. However, when trying to classify the "known relationship" in the Family Finder matches, there is no option for 5th cousin, 2x removed, rather only for 5th, 6th, 7th. Should I select 5th cousin or something else? In addition, we are also double cousins from this relationship.

    Any help or direction appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Mike

  • #2
    Please place a request to FTDNA to add such relationships.

    W. (Mr.)

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    • #3
      FTDNA would have to allow free text to cover all the possibilities. AFAIK, the classification is not used for anything, so you could put something in the notes for the person.

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      • #4
        Ann - I want to fill something in that space for the time being. Do you think it would be more appropriate to put 5th cousin or would 7th cousin be more appropriate since we are two generations removed?

        I'll certainly add something in the notes section as well.

        Thanks,
        Mike

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        • #5
          A 5th cousin twice removed shares the same amount of DNA as a 6th cousin (on the average). But since you are double cousins, you would actually share more than that. I suppose I'd just enter 6th cousin myself, but it's up to you.

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          • #6
            I try to enter the closest blood relationship. That helps with locating within the family tree.

            For example, if my wife was my 2nd, 4th and 5th cousin, I would enter 2nd cousin.

            If free text was allowed, I would enter all the relationships.

            W. (Mr.)

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            • #7
              Thanks for the quick response! That's helpful to know.

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              • #8
                what is family finder

                Before I get too excited about family finder , I would just like to know what it actually is. Is it just a collection of numbers and letters with no explanation? How long does it take to arrive and what information do I actually receive?
                Any help and advice would be appreciated, thanks.

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                • #9
                  Among other results you will get a list of matches. This tells you about other people who share the same segments of autosomal DNA and gives an indication of how distant the relationship may be.

                  You may find it helpful to view some of the webinars about interpretation of DNA results while you are waiting so that you have a better understanding of how to proceed when your results come in.

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                  • #10
                    not a scientist

                    thanks for that- just a few follow up questions;
                    1)Where do I find these webinars?
                    2)Is that not the job of Family tree Dna ie to explain these very technical terms and concepts to people who are not geneticists and who might not get the jargon? Specialist information without expert interpretation is quite pointless after all.
                    3)What is 'autosomal dna'?
                    4)Wouldn't FTDNA make a lot more money if it made the whole thing more accessible to the layman? Wouldn't the customer get less frustrated with the whole thing , whilst getting ever more enthused , to buy more products and services.

                    Before the reformation in the Catholic church , Latin was the only language in which the clergy were allowed to perform mass. This feels very similar.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by owain View Post
                      thanks for that- just a few follow up questions;
                      1)Where do I find these webinars?
                      2)Is that not the job of Family tree Dna ie to explain these very technical terms and concepts to people who are not geneticists and who might not get the jargon? Specialist information without expert interpretation is quite pointless after all.
                      3)What is 'autosomal dna'?
                      4)Wouldn't FTDNA make a lot more money if it made the whole thing more accessible to the layman? Wouldn't the customer get less frustrated with the whole thing , whilst getting ever more enthused , to buy more products and services.

                      Before the reformation in the Catholic church , Latin was the only language in which the clergy were allowed to perform mass. This feels very similar.
                      1)search youtube for FTDNA
                      here is a link to one on Family Finder
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtpe6u2J5ps

                      3) Autosomal DNA is your DNA in your chromosome pairs 1 thru 22. We each have 46 single chromosomes, 23 from father and 23 from mother.
                      The 23rd chromosome is your sex chromosome, Males inherit an X from mother and Y from father (XY), Females inherit an X from each parent (XX)

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                      • #12
                        thanks prairielad

                        So the family finder will look for the first 22 Chromosomal markers from the paternal side of my DNA. How many markers will constitute a match which will establish a close relative? Will the proximity of the matches be accompanied by an explanation? For example will the level of relatedness be indicated ; second , third cousins etc?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by owain View Post
                          So the family finder will look for the first 22 Chromosomal markers from the paternal side of my DNA. How many markers will constitute a match which will establish a close relative? Will the proximity of the matches be accompanied by an explanation? For example will the level of relatedness be indicated ; second , third cousins etc?
                          It looks at both your maternal chromosomes and paternal chromosomes 1 thru 22

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                          • #14
                            thanks prairielad

                            this might seem like a stupid observation , but I have only done the YDNA test , so how would it test my maternal side?
                            If it is stupid then please tell me why - I will not be offended in any way as I really do not understand even the basics of genetics.Thanks.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by owain View Post
                              this might seem like a stupid observation , but I have only done the YDNA test , so how would it test my maternal side?
                              If it is stupid then please tell me why - I will not be offended in any way as I really do not understand even the basics of genetics.Thanks.
                              You would have to order the Family Finder test.

                              If you have only did a YDNA test, this has only tested the Y DNA in your 23rd Chromosome pair, which covers your direct paternal line only (Fathers fathers father, ect...)
                              Last edited by prairielad; 26 April 2015, 05:29 PM.

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