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  • #31
    Originally posted by 1798 View Post
    rs10800485*T T
    rs6670818*A A*
    rs16845098*T C
    rs17503834*T C
    rs4692788*T T
    rs963660* TC
    rs17254301*C C
    rs10484939* A G
    rs17226291*C T
    rs11792454*C T
    rs17324630*T T
    rs1330692* TC
    rs16918958*C C
    rs16917040*T T
    rs12416000*G G
    rs11252810*TC
    rs11815066*G G
    rs10852939*C C
    rs16965666*T T
    rs4794826* CC
    rs9609421*A A
    rs17745316*G G
    rs7536180*C C
    rs10494778*A A
    rs17430552*T T
    rs332951*TC
    Does anyone who is FF tested match me on all of these SNPs?

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    • #32
      I checked out my son's FF results with mine.
      My son Me
      AA 112,612 112,239
      GG 130,548 130,796
      TT 112,473 112,796
      CC 131,312 131,411
      AG 82,211 82,867
      TC 81,990 82,981
      AC 18,743 19,103
      TG 18,765 18,914

      I noticed also that I have a lot of the same X SNP alleles as my son. I don't know how that is.

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      • #33
        Can anyone explain why I match my son in SNPs but the chromosome positions are different? Here is a sample.
        RSID CHROMOSOME POSITION RESULT RSID CHROMOSOME POSITION RESULT
        rs4477212 1 82154 AA rs4477212 1 72017 AA
        rs3094315 1 752566 AA rs3094315 1 742429 AA
        rs3131972 1 752721 GG rs3131972 1 742584 GG
        rs12562034 1 768448 GG rs12562034 1 758311 GG
        rs12124819 1 776546 AG rs12124819 1 766409 AG
        rs11240777 1 798959 GG rs11240777 1 788822 GG
        rs6681049 1 800007 CC rs6681049 1 789870 CC
        rs4970383 1 838555 CC rs4970383 1 828418 CC
        rs4475691 1 846808 CC rs4475691 1 836671 CC
        rs7537756 1 854250 AA rs7537756 1 844113 AA
        rs13302982 1 861808 GG rs13302982 1 851671 GG
        rs1110052 1 873558 TT rs1110052 1 863421 TT
        rs2272756 1 882033 GG rs2272756 1 871896 GG
        rs17160698 1 887162 TT rs17160698 1 877025 TT
        rs3748597 1 888659 CC rs3748597 1 878522 CC
        rs13303106 1 891945 GG rs13303106 1 881808 GG
        rs28415373 1 893981 CC rs28415373 1 883844 CC
        rs13303010 1 894573 AA rs13303010 1 884436 AA
        rs6696281 1 903104 CC rs6696281 1 892967 CC

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        • #34
          Originally posted by 1798 View Post
          Can anyone explain why I match my son in SNPs but the chromosome positions are different? Here is a sample.
          RSID CHROMOSOME POSITION RESULT RSID CHROMOSOME POSITION RESULT
          rs4477212 1 82154 AA rs4477212 1 72017 AA
          rs3094315 1 752566 AA rs3094315 1 742429 AA
          rs3131972 1 752721 GG rs3131972 1 742584 GG
          rs12562034 1 768448 GG rs12562034 1 758311 GG
          rs12124819 1 776546 AG rs12124819 1 766409 AG
          rs11240777 1 798959 GG rs11240777 1 788822 GG
          rs6681049 1 800007 CC rs6681049 1 789870 CC
          rs4970383 1 838555 CC rs4970383 1 828418 CC
          rs4475691 1 846808 CC rs4475691 1 836671 CC
          rs7537756 1 854250 AA rs7537756 1 844113 AA
          rs13302982 1 861808 GG rs13302982 1 851671 GG
          rs1110052 1 873558 TT rs1110052 1 863421 TT
          rs2272756 1 882033 GG rs2272756 1 871896 GG
          rs17160698 1 887162 TT rs17160698 1 877025 TT
          rs3748597 1 888659 CC rs3748597 1 878522 CC
          rs13303106 1 891945 GG rs13303106 1 881808 GG
          rs28415373 1 893981 CC rs28415373 1 883844 CC
          rs13303010 1 894573 AA rs13303010 1 884436 AA
          rs6696281 1 903104 CC rs6696281 1 892967 CC




          RSID CHROMOSOME POSITION RESULT RSID CHROMOSOME POSITION RESULT
          rs17883004 X 1370495 GG rs17883004 X 1370495 GG
          rs5939319 X 2710157 GG rs5939319 X 2710157 GG
          rs1419931 X 2713633 GG rs1419931 X 2713633 GG
          rs311173 X 2722661 CC rs311173 X 2722661 CC
          rs311183 X 2724756 TT rs311183 X 2724756 TT
          rs4484858 X 2725425 AA rs4484858 X 2725425 GG
          rs6642025 X 2735883 CC rs6642025 X 2735883 CC
          rs3671 X 2743668 AA rs3671 X 2743668 AA
          rs901321 X 2747282 GG rs901321 X 2747282 GG
          rs10126656 X 2747785 CC rs10126656 X 2747785 CC
          rs5982588 X 2753627 AA rs5982588 X 2753627 AA
          rs2018631 X 2756558 CC rs2018631 X 2756558 CC
          rs4892897 X 2770060 TT rs4892897 X 2770060 TT
          rs17090628 X 2784609 GG rs17090628 X 2784609 GG
          rs5939373 X 2786372 TT rs5939373 X 2786372 TT
          rs2306734 X 2787985 TT rs2306734 X 2787985 TT
          rs1905995 X 2788526 GG rs1905995 X 2788526 GG
          rs17330993 X 2789749 CC rs17330993 X 2789749 CC
          rs5939137 X 2793555 GG rs5939137 X 2793555 GG

          Here is a sample from my son and my X results. We have two different mothers passing on two separate X chromosomes so how is that we match on a lot SNPs?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by 1798 View Post
            Can anyone explain why I match my son in SNPs but the chromosome positions are different? Here is a sample.
            RSID CHROMOSOME POSITION RESULT RSID CHROMOSOME POSITION RESULT
            rs4477212 1 82154 AA rs4477212 1 72017 AA
            rs3094315 1 752566 AA rs3094315 1 742429 AA
            rs3131972 1 752721 GG rs3131972 1 742584 GG
            rs12562034 1 768448 GG rs12562034 1 758311 GG
            rs12124819 1 776546 AG rs12124819 1 766409 AG
            rs11240777 1 798959 GG rs11240777 1 788822 GG
            rs6681049 1 800007 CC rs6681049 1 789870 CC
            rs4970383 1 838555 CC rs4970383 1 828418 CC
            rs4475691 1 846808 CC rs4475691 1 836671 CC
            rs7537756 1 854250 AA rs7537756 1 844113 AA
            rs13302982 1 861808 GG rs13302982 1 851671 GG
            rs1110052 1 873558 TT rs1110052 1 863421 TT
            rs2272756 1 882033 GG rs2272756 1 871896 GG
            rs17160698 1 887162 TT rs17160698 1 877025 TT
            rs3748597 1 888659 CC rs3748597 1 878522 CC
            rs13303106 1 891945 GG rs13303106 1 881808 GG
            rs28415373 1 893981 CC rs28415373 1 883844 CC
            rs13303010 1 894573 AA rs13303010 1 884436 AA
            rs6696281 1 903104 CC rs6696281 1 892967 CC
            You have to compare the results with the same build format.

            rs4477212
            Build 36 = 72017
            Build 37 = 82154

            In FTDNA, you can download result with Build 36 or Build 37 format. If you ever use David Pike's tools, it's obvious written there that data files based on different reference standards (such as Build 36 versus Build 37) should not be directly compared without first converting to a common standard.

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            • #36
              Thanks. I have downloaded the two of them. It still doesn't answer the question. Why has my wife the same SNPs as I have?
              We are not related.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                Thanks. I have downloaded the two of them. It still doesn't answer the question. Why has my wife the same SNPs as I have?
                We are not related.
                Wikipedia
                "A large gene pool indicates extensive genetic diversity, which is associated with robust populations that can survive bouts of intense selection. Meanwhile, low genetic diversity (see inbreeding and population bottlenecks) can cause reduced biological fitness and an increased chance of extinction, although as explained by genetic drift new genetic variants, that may cause an increase in the fitness of organisms, are more likely to fix in the population if it is rather small."
                Last edited by 1798; 17 July 2014, 12:52 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                  Wikipedia
                  "A large gene pool indicates extensive genetic diversity, which is associated with robust populations that can survive bouts of intense selection. Meanwhile, low genetic diversity (see inbreeding and population bottlenecks) can cause reduced biological fitness and an increased chance of extinction, although as explained by genetic drift new genetic variants, that may cause an increase in the fitness of organisms, are more likely to fix in the population if it is rather small."
                  You do realize that wikipedia explanation is about coding gene, right ? While majority of SNPs that have been used in ancestry purpose are non coding.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Parameswara View Post
                    You do realize that wikipedia explanation is about coding gene, right ? While majority of SNPs that have been used in ancestry purpose are non coding.
                    I know that my 16 GG grandparents came from within a 10 mile radius of my home. That is the gene pool where my autosomal dna comes from.

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                    • #40
                      You are lucky to have such easy paper trail research within reach. I just wish I could find all 16 of mine, which is part of what I hope to get out of FF follow up. How about your next 32. Were they from further afield?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                        Thanks. I have downloaded the two of them. It still doesn't answer the question. Why has my wife the same SNPs as I have?
                        We are not related.
                        Why do you think if you are not related to your wife, then you will not get the same allele ? I give you an example ; there are just 3 possible result for rs4477212 which are AA, AG, or GG. So everyone in the world will get one of those 3 possible values.

                        How many identical SNPs allele (in one segment, in a row) that you both have ? 300, 400, 500 ? If you just have identical allele less than 300 SNPs in a row then you are not related to her. Well, FTDNA threshold is 7 cM (about 700 SNPs) in first segment and 5 cM (about 500 SNPs) in next segment to declare related.
                        Last edited by Parameswara; 18 July 2014, 07:01 AM.

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                        • #42
                          I can't edit my previous post ?

                          Well sorry, I mix up something in previous post.

                          Why do you think if you are not related to your wife, then you will not get the same allele ? I give you an example ; there are just 3 possible result for rs4477212 which are AA, AG, or GG. So everyone in the world will get one of those 3 possible values.

                          How many identical SNPs allele (in one segment, in a row) that you both have ? 300, 400, 500 ? If you just have identical allele less than 300 SNPs in a row then you are not related to her. Gedmatch use 3 cM as a minimum threshold, 23andme use 7 cM (about 700 SNPs) in first segment and 5 cM (about 500 SNPs) in next segment, while FTDNA threshold is at least 500 SNPs in first segment and a total of 20 cM to declare two people related.
                          Last edited by Parameswara; 18 July 2014, 07:38 AM.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by LynCra View Post
                            You are lucky to have such easy paper trail research within reach. I just wish I could find all 16 of mine, which is part of what I hope to get out of FF follow up. How about your next 32. Were they from further afield?
                            The church records don't go back far enough to establish a paper trail to all of the 32 but I have some of them.The names are still in the same townlands showing in the Hearth Money Rolls of the 17th century.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Parameswara View Post
                              Why do you think if you are not related to your wife, then you will not get the same allele ? I give you an example ; there are just 3 possible result for rs4477212 which are AA, AG, or GG. So everyone in the world will get one of those 3 possible values.

                              How many identical SNPs allele (in one segment, in a row) that you both have ? 300, 400, 500 ? If you just have identical allele less than 300 SNPs in a row then you are not related to her. Well, FTDNA threshold is 7 cM (about 700 SNPs) in first segment and 5 cM (about 500 SNPs) in next segment to declare related.
                              My son and I have one shared X match!!!!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by 1798 View Post
                                My son and I have one shared X match!!!!
                                If you came from isolated area then it's a common thing. You said that you have 16GG grandparents came from within 10 miles radius from your home. So, it's possible if you test some random people from your area then the result will be related.

                                By the way, how many cM you share with your son in X Chromosome ?

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