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  • #91
    I had 55 Affy matches. Now I have 38 Illumina matches; 25 of these are brand new. I have high hopes for the old ones to show up.

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    • #92
      My wife and I have each had *1* match added to our Illumina results just this morning.

      Originally posted by econnore View Post
      I had 55 Affy matches. Now I have 38 Illumina matches; 25 of these are brand new. I have high hopes for the old ones to show up.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by dwight View Post
        My wife and I have each had *1* match added to our Illumina results just this morning.
        That is nice Dwight.....I have not had a new addition since 4/19, and it was just one. I am hoping for my missing 26 Affy's!

        If we end up with such a large amount of Affy's who don't also show up in Illumina during the conversion, then I think FTDNA needs to leave our Affy data there where we can continue to use it re. chromosome comparisons, etc. Right now my total Illumina is smaller (26 matches including Affy and Illumina) than my total Affy only list (33 matches). If Affy's are still viable matches, then we need to continue using them, especially if like me, you don't have a lot of matches to begin with.

        Judy

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        • #94
          I agree, Judy. In addition, I would like to see, when the final conversions are in, an official statement from FTDNA as to how they interpret all of this. What is the meaning of a match on Affy not being a match on Illumina, in their best professional judgment? I mean, I certainly appreciate the good advice of Matt and others here on the forum, but this is a big question. I'd like to see it dealt with in a direct and official manner. I suppose it could simply be added to the FAQ, but I think at least some statement should be sent out to everyone involved (those who had Affy results that were converted).

          Originally posted by nolnacsj View Post
          That is nice Dwight.....I have not had a new addition since 4/19, and it was just one. I am hoping for my missing 26 Affy's!

          If we end up with such a large amount of Affy's who don't also show up in Illumina during the conversion, then I think FTDNA needs to leave our Affy data there where we can continue to use it re. chromosome comparisons, etc. Right now my total Illumina is smaller (26 matches including Affy and Illumina) than my total Affy only list (33 matches). If Affy's are still viable matches, then we need to continue using them, especially if like me, you don't have a lot of matches to begin with.

          Judy

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          • #95
            Originally posted by dwight View Post
            I agree, Judy. In addition, I would like to see, when the final conversions are in, an official statement from FTDNA as to how they interpret all of this. What is the meaning of a match on Affy not being a match on Illumina, in their best professional judgment? I mean, I certainly appreciate the good advice of Matt and others here on the forum, but this is a big question. I'd like to see it dealt with in a direct and official manner. I suppose it could simply be added to the FAQ, but I think at least some statement should be sent out to everyone involved (those who had Affy results that were converted).
            Dwight, I agree 100% and was thinking the same thing myself, that an official statement should be issued regarding a significant number of Affy matches not showing up on Illumina (if in the end this is the case).

            I have some pretty important Affy matches who have not converted over. They are important to me, because I am an adoptee. One is a woman who is Italian and she and I have communicated and she is very helpful. My birth father is listed on information sent to me by New York State (the adoptee/birth family reunion registry) as being Italian, but I have no other FF matches with Italian surnames. I suspect that most of my matches come from my Irish/Dutch birth mother's side.

            Supposedly Affy matches are still considered viable matches, but I am afraid a lot of folks will loose interest in people they only matched with on Affy, if they do not carry over to Illumina. This may be OK for some people who are researching genealogy and have hundreds of confirmed names in their family tree, and lots of matches to work with, but to an adoptee, every match is very important as each one could hold that special answer to who we are, and where we came from.

            I guess, if the DNA segments are there for one test, but are not present for another, there isn't much that can be done.......

            Hoping that there will be a big slug of final Affy's coming!

            Judy

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            • #96
              Originally posted by nolnacsj View Post
              That is nice Dwight.....I have not had a new addition since 4/19, and it was just one. I am hoping for my missing 26 Affy's!

              If we end up with such a large amount of Affy's who don't also show up in Illumina during the conversion, then I think FTDNA needs to leave our Affy data there where we can continue to use it re. chromosome comparisons, etc. Right now my total Illumina is smaller (26 matches including Affy and Illumina) than my total Affy only list (33 matches). If Affy's are still viable matches, then we need to continue using them, especially if like me, you don't have a lot of matches to begin with.

              Judy
              My mother has just 7 Illumina matches she had 25 Affy. I had 47 Affy and only have 20 Illumina most of them are new matches not converted affy. I don't think the missing will be back. They are all fairly distant matches but I thought that some of them would become a bit closer with Illumina, instead most have all vanished. Actually what is most important to me is real matches and if that is what Illumina provides then that is good. However, I still want to know the status of my affy matches were they real or not.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by LSSmith View Post
                However, I still want to know the status of my affy matches were they real or not.
                Your Affy matches are real.
                From what I understand, Illumina and Affymetrix does not test the exact same parts of our DNA. They are mostly overlapping, but there are segments Affymetrix tests that Illumina does not test and there's even more segments Illumina tests that Affymetrix does not test. So if you match someone on the parts of your DNA that Affymetrix tests and Illumina doesn't, then you obviously will not match on Illumina. The match is still just as valid.

                Now if we look at the chances of a distant cousin matching:
                https://www.familytreedna.com/faq/an...x?faqid=17#628
                It is only logical that some do no longer show with Illumina. And also we will get matches that we would never have gotten with Affymetrix.

                To the DNA gurus on this forum: please correct me if I'm wrong.

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                • #98
                  In the middle of March my kit was converted and I only had about a third of my 46 Affymetrix matches plus about a half dozen mew matches. No one had been added since that time until today, when one of my old matches was added. So now, I have 24 matches as opposed to 46 with the old chip.

                  Not many compared to what some people have, but I still think that the fact that several branches of my family immigrated, mostly from rural communities in Germany, after 1840 is affecting the number. And one of my grandparents immigrated from France after 1900. I just don't think that many of their relatives will have had the test one.

                  I'd like to see the database grow by leaps and bounds!!!

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                  • #99
                    I have only 12 of my 58 Affy matches in my new Illumina.
                    That leaves 46 Affy matches still not converted or not matching me.
                    I dont expect all my old Affy matches to come through, especially the smaller, more distiant ones, but I do expect more than 12 out of 58.

                    Some of my new Illumina matches are smaller cM and block than my old Affy matches.
                    Im still missing my closest Affy matches at 3rd and 4th cousin level.

                    I also expect some sort of explanation from FTDNA, not gossip and heresay from someone who says he knows what going on.

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                    • Copy of the note from FTDNA:

                      "Hi Matt,

                      The Affy to Illumina conversion will be completed, I'm told, on Wednesday of this week and completely uploaded by Thursday. I am fairly certain they will remove Affy results as soon as they are finished uploading. Hopefully this won't cause too much of a problem. Please spread the word (if you can) so that people are aware that Affy will go away very soon."


                      No one has to believe my posts when I pass on information. They are for those who want to know, not for the those who don't.

                      Yes FTDNA should provide an official announcement, I agree - but I don't know why you'd make a comment Jamy at the end of your post about gossip and heresay. There's no reason to say that and it is really meaningless considering everything from the move to Illumina, both releases of PF and other things posted, before they occurred, were always correct.

                      In my case I know there have been things I've been told not to mention until they do but in this case about the Affy conversions you can see what I was sent.


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                      Last edited by mkdexter; 26 April 2011, 08:58 PM.

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                      • Oh, I want to know. But they announced my conversion would take "two to three weeks" in early February, then the date given was "by the end of March," then it was "by April 6th," and now, almost May, it's still not done. I'm not doubting your sources, but their timelines have never been very accurate: it will be ready when it is ready, which may or may not be when your sources think.

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                        • Javelin that wasn't directed to you. It was just to show that the news I posted about the Affy conversions ending this week is not gossip or hearsay.

                          I agree with you and others that FTDNA should answer some of their customer questions about the conversion schedule and Affy matches.

                          I'm still missing 34 Affy, got 37 back and I've gained 48 new ones in Illumina I didn't have before. I'm just as curious as others to know just how many of the 34 I'm missing will show up at the end - although the new ones more than make up for the missing 34 so far.
                          Last edited by mkdexter; 27 April 2011, 12:21 AM.

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                          • Missing matches

                            I am missing close to 50 matches . I am curious to see how many of those I will get. Since I manage by fathers and my uncles account to see what matches they may get of the ones I do not get this time.
                            So far my uncle has gotten 3 of my matches I did not get my father none at this time.

                            It will be interesting.

                            Cheryl

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                            • Ah okay, sorry I misunderstood.

                              Originally posted by mkdexter View Post
                              Javelin that wasn't directed to you. It was just to show that the news I posted about the Affy conversions ending this week is not gossip or hearsay.

                              I agree with you and others that FTDNA should answer some of their customer questions about the conversion schedule and Affy matches.

                              I'm still missing 34 Affy, got 37 back and I've gained 48 new ones in Illumina I didn't have before. I'm just as curious as others to know just how many of the 34 I'm missing will show up at the end - although the new ones more than make up for the missing 34 so far.

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                              • Originally posted by mkdexter View Post
                                Copy of the note from FTDNA:

                                "Hi Matt,

                                The Affy to Illumina conversion will be completed, I'm told, on Wednesday of this week and completely uploaded by Thursday. I am fairly certain they will remove Affy results as soon as they are finished uploading. Hopefully this won't cause too much of a problem. Please spread the word (if you can) so that people are aware that Affy will go away very soon."


                                No one has to believe my posts when I pass on information. They are for those who want to know, not for the those who don't.

                                Yes FTDNA should provide an official announcement, I agree - but I don't know why you'd make a comment Jamy at the end of your post about gossip and heresay. There's no reason to say that and it is really meaningless considering everything from the move to Illumina, both releases of PF and other things posted, before they occurred, were always correct.

                                In my case I know there have been things I've been told not to mention until they do but in this case about the Affy conversions you can see what I was sent.


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                                Matt, I have always appreciated your reliable updates and information.

                                I do think that FTDNA needs to send a message regarding the end of the conversion process and subsequent Affy removal to ALL their FF customers who were originally tested using Affymetrix, and notify them that the conversions are complete (when this happens this week), and that all Affy results will be removed by a certain date. Then give folks a week or so to copy their info if they have not done so already. I say this because not everyone reads the public forum, and those who don't, even though they were notified months before that this is going to happen, should get a reminder. Otherwise, there may be some very angry and unhappy customers. FTDNA should post it on their FB page also. IMHO anyway.....

                                Judy

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