Illumina Chip Population Finder Results

[mkdexter]

I'm 100% Orcadian.

Are all Irish and British people classed as Orcadian?

It looks like they are, yes. I have not asked FTDNA but it sure looks like that.

MD.

[aidan]

I'm 100% Orcadian.

Are all Irish and British people classed as Orcadian?

[DelawareNative]

I realized I incorrectly posted my son's PF results earlier on a posting, but he's NA by phenotype too, so his results aren't entirely correct, either.

Of note, we are reading as 2 separate types of ME/Jewish - my results:

Europe (Western European) - Orcadian 88.80% , Middle East Palestinian, Druze, Jewish 11.20%

[michellehall]

I got:
Europe (Western European) Orcadian 92.33
Middle East Palestinian, Adygei, Iranian, Jewish 7.67

most of my confirmed family tree is UK, colonial northeast US or virginia, but I have a lot of gaps. I'm really intrigued about the ME percentage and wonder if it's accurate. if it is I hope I can trace it back someday.

I wouldn't think that yDNA or mtDNA inconsistent with a significant portion of population finder results should be an immediate red flag that something is wrong. after all, yDNA and mtDNA come down through only the direct lines, whereas FF looks at dna contributed from a lot of grandparents. my maternal ancestress gave me Wc1, my paternal line is unknown because no male in my family will test for me even though I bought the kit, but even if it turns out to be western european as well, its still only a drop in the bucket as far as my origins go. the rest of my western european dna came from a lot of other people.

[michellehall]

deleted, weirdness happened

[Yaffa]

I'm Native American by phenotype (physical race), but I do have plenty of Euro genes and suspect some SSA - very common for being from DelMarVa.

Could it be that our results comparing each and every population haven't been run yet? I'm presuming these are preliminary results and "my results my vary" until results populate and update for everyone in the database...?

While I'm not saying this is entirely wrong, it's not entirely right, either:

Europe (Western European) - Orcadian 91.36%
Middle East - Adygei, Iranian, Jewish 8.64%


I wonder since many of us have "only" new Western Euro and ME results, that it's because those are the only populations that have rolled in so far....

Being that you have AI and from the US, They dont have AI in their populations. They only have Central and South American Indian and your DNA may not match the Indian populations they do have.

A lot of people got a High Orcadin % and this test needs fine tuning. They also need to add populations. This test is not including may populations

[DelawareNative]

I'm not worried, just curious.

There's a reason they call it "Beta" - they need feedback from us so they can tweak things, right?

[mkdexter]

Thanks, Matt.

Many of us Americans are turning into Orcadians all of a sudden....and many of us now are Middle Eastern, too.

Strange things are afoot at the Circle K....

Yes I do think there are too many Orcadian assignments.

[DelawareNative]

Thanks, Matt.

Many of us Americans are turning into Orcadians all of a sudden....and many of us now are Middle Eastern, too.

Strange things are afoot at the Circle K....

[mkdexter]

To your question: All the populations have been ran and calculated and none are pending.

[DelawareNative]

I'm Native American by phenotype (physical race), but I do have plenty of Euro genes and suspect some SSA - very common for being from DelMarVa.

Could it be that our results comparing each and every population haven't been run yet? I'm presuming these are preliminary results and "my results my vary" until results populate and update for everyone in the database...?

While I'm not saying this is entirely wrong, it's not entirely right, either:

Europe (Western European) - Orcadian 91.36%
Middle East - Adygei, Iranian, Jewish 8.64%


I wonder since many of us have "only" new Western Euro and ME results, that it's because those are the only populations that have rolled in so far....

[AngeliaR]

ME Surprise

My 9.17% Middle East was a surprise because Mtdna was J1b1 and Y Dna was R-L21 and all other lines that have been followed are English, Irish, Scottish or German, as are known surnames. I have not found any indication of even Southern Europe going back at least a couple of centuries. The most recent immigration possible is pre-1800.

Please be patient with me on this... I am really puzzled by this result.

I'm really not comfortable not having ever had a hint of this heritage in family legends and stories, much less any documentation that would support it. I am trying to understand where this could fit into my genealogy. That's a big chunk not to even be suggested.

I've been doing family history for literally decades and nothing else points that direction.

[Yaffa]

It does seem like it was reading the Western European as Middle Eastern. Is the Central American % more in line with the documentation you have about your family, or do you think it should be higher?

I'm still waiting on my results, but it sounds like people's results have become a bit more refined, which makes me excited about my own results. My Native American results on Affy are quite high, based on what I know about my family, so I'm curious to see what that will look like on Illumina.

My MT DNA Indian and yes the Indian % on PF matches to records. Do I believe my % should be higher yes but it all depends what we inherit from our ancestors and what will show up in this test. Does my ancestry match up to a higher % of Western Europe all classified as French Orcadian NO!!!

I have a few DNA projects that are getting strange results and have the admins checking into the issue further and they will report what they find back to FTDNA.

Did you read what Mike Maddi posted about the Italy DNA project

http://forums.familytreedna.com/showthread.php?t=28363&page=4

[dawer]

23andme has only three categories; Europe, Asia, and Africa.

Middle East and India and North Africa DNA would fall under the "Europe" category. India and the Middle East may also get a score in Asia and/or Africa.
Polynesians or Oceanians may get all three also.

So your PF matches your 23andme.

Is that so? That seems a bit ethnocentric. I'm sure they have a good rationale for it, but to group all of those under Europe just seems to me to ignore History 101 about the spread of humans on this Earth. But maybe I'm ultra sensitive on this topic.

[dawer]

My Affy test gave me 12-13 Middle Eastern and Illumina got rid of the Middle Eastern and added my old Middle Eastern % it to Western European. The only % that stayed same is my Central American Indian.

It does seem like it was reading the Western European as Middle Eastern. Is the Central American % more in line with the documentation you have about your family, or do you think it should be higher?

I'm still waiting on my results, but it sounds like people's results have become a bit more refined, which makes me excited about my own results. My Native American results on Affy are quite high, based on what I know about my family, so I'm curious to see what that will look like on Illumina.