Illumina Chip Population Finder Results

[gijoeinfinity]

I was thinking how mtDNA X is a possible link between North American Indians and the Middle East. The connection would be very ancient, but I wonder if it might have something to do with the ME score. There seems to be some dispute as to how mtDNA X got to America as it is not found in East Asia and nor is it found in Central or South America. Since there are no reference samples for North American Indians, one has to wonder how a full-blooded Sioux (who have the highest concentration of mtDNA X at 15%), for example, would look autosomally in these tests.

[Yaffa]

Yaffa,

The margin of error for me is +/- 2.77% for Middle East. My NE Euro MOE is +/- 3.41.

Someone was posting in here that their margin of error was less than 1 on their middle Eastern % and they have confirmed ancestry to match. The only margin of error I have less than 1 is my Central American Indian. Margin of error at 0.22. My others much higher.

[Yaffa]

I was thinking how mtDNA X is a possible link between North American Indians and the Middle East. The connection would be very ancient, but I wonder if it might have something to do with the ME score. There seems to be some dispute as to how mtDNA X got to America as it is not found in East Asia and nor is it found in Central or South America. Since there are no reference samples for North American Indians, one has to wonder how a full-blooded Sioux (who have the highest concentration of mtDNA X at 15%), for example, would look autosomally in these tests.

I am going to eventually test my uncle who is the grandson of my known full blood and her mixed husband and see what his results show. He is the only one of my grandmother's siblings willing to DNA test. I need a sale on FF. I already paid for his MT-DNA and Y-67 marker and deep clade, his X and D9 marker.

[Barreldriver]

I'm curious, has anyone gotten any new PF results yet? Or the raw data download available yet? I'm still getting the keep on waiting message.

[Yaffa]

I'm curious, has anyone gotten any new PF results yet? Or the raw data download available yet? I'm still getting the keep on waiting message.

Still got the waiting message too

[Yaffa]

Yaffa,

The margin of error for me is +/- 2.77% for Middle East. My NE Euro MOE is +/- 3.41.

My closest FF match to me just emailed me back. Her ME is between 8-9 % and her margin of error over 2. She also questions the ME results she got.

[rainbow]

The mosaics from McDonald are handy, got one a while back from him. Heard somewhere over at DNAforums that he'll be accepting FTDNA files at some point in time.

Dr. McDonald emailed me a new BGA after I re-sent my raw data zip file from 23andme (500k snps). He sent me a brief email telling me my results and 4 image attachments. The first one shows all the chromosones with blocks of color. Red is European, African is blue, Native American is green, and so on. Dark brown blocks is "too little data" (I have a lot of that). Medium brown is "centomere". ?
Attachments 2,3, and 4 look like identical MDS plots.
Dr. McDonald says the Native American is likely noise (didn't give me a percentage of that, but I saw green at the start of chromosone 6), and he said I have 0.5% African "of an unknown sort". He says I am 92% Orcadian (Orkney is between Scotland and Norway) and the rest is Middle Eastern, which brings me to the SE tip of England. "Purely British".

[rainbow]

Last year my Mideast was 2.5, and was told that was the average for British/NW Europeans.
I don't know why it jumped to about 8%. And I've read on the forum that FTDNA FF PF is done by (or helped by) Dr. McDonald. Maybe low amounts of Neolithic farmer genes are spread somewhat evenly in some areas of Europe. My known recent ancestry is 1/4 Slovak and 3/4 NW European (mostly United Kingdom).

[Yaffa]

No more Middle Eastern % with new PF

[JuanCarlos]

No more Middle Eastern % with new PF

So what is it now?

[Yaffa]

So what is it now?

Just Western European and Central American remain. Im sure that not all my Western Europe is 100% accurate since we are still missing many populations in the test but this does match much better to genealogy at the moment.

[JuanCarlos]

Just Western European and Central American remain. Im sure that not all my Western Europe is 100% accurate since we are still missing many populations in the test but this does match much better to genealogy at the moment.

Thank you.

[Yaffa]

My closest FF match to me just emailed me back. Her ME is between 8-9 % and her margin of error over 2. She also questions the ME results she got.

Just posting an update with my closest FF match. Her new PF results still show Middle East and she still does not know where it came from.

And JuanCarlos your welcome!

[AngeliaR]

Unknown ME %

Received 23andme results last night which showed 99+% European.

Today got PF results from ftdna and it showed 90% European and 10% Middle Eastern.

This was a real surprise and is not backed up by any documentation in my file. It seems like a pretty big difference between the two. The margin of error on PF was +/- 2.86. Mine was a new kit so I don't have any Affy comparison results.

Many of these lines can go back to colonial NE and all I have found have been English, Irish, Scottish and German.

Anyone else have a similar issue?

Any advice for my next step other than to keep plugging on my personal research?

[gijoeinfinity]

My Middle Eastern % actually grew. But my father's family now has Middle Eastern also.

Myself:
47.04% Cambodian +/- 0.35%
41.93% Russian/Finnish +/- 2.04%
11.03% Jewish, Palestinian +/- 1.81%

My paternal grandmother:
92.03% Orcadian +/- 1.49%
7.97% Palestinian, Jewish, Mozabite +/- 1.49%

My paternal uncle:
89.93% Orcadian +/- 2.01%
10.07% Palestinian, Iranian, Jewish, Mozabite +/- 2.01%