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    Hi guys I just noticed this new calculator on Gedmatch. Davidski has this model to approximate Geno 2.0 analysis. Wondering how it stacks up with you guys who did the Geno 2.0. I did not take the Geno 2.0 but here are my results. I found them to be interesting.

    Population
    Southwest_Asian 12.08%
    Native_American 1.20%
    Northeast_Asian 0.08%
    Mediterranean 19.71%
    North_European 63.81%
    Southeast_Asian 0.98%
    Oceanian 1.05%
    South_African -
    Sub-Saharan_African 1.08%

    Hmmm, I wish he could have an oracle for which two countries you match. :-D
    Last edited by Táltos; 30 September 2013, 10:26 PM.

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    Population
    Southwest_Asian 8.84%
    Native_American 2.19%
    Northeast_Asian 0.83%
    Mediterranean 18.94%
    North_European 67.81%
    Southeast_Asian -
    Oceanian 0.57%
    South_African -
    Sub-Saharan_African 0.81%

    My Geno 2.0 results were 40% Northern European, 40% Mediterranean, 20% Southwest Asian. So quite a bit different. I'm assuming everything under 1% is noise. The 2% Native American should not be there at all.

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    • #3
      Population
      Southwest_Asian 11.15%
      Native_American 1.96%
      Northeast_Asian 0.89%
      Mediterranean 15.21%
      North_European 68.87%
      Southeast_Asian 0.53%
      Oceanian 0.39%
      South_African 1.01%
      Sub-Saharan_African -


      Also for me the Native American isn't real.

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      • #4
        Where did you see that this new calculator is supposed to approximate Geno 2.0's admixture analysis? It didn't do that for me.

        Geno 2.0 results

        Mediterranean - 57%
        Northern European - 22%
        Southwest Asian - 20%

        Eurogenes K9b results

        Southwest_Asian 16.08%
        Native_American 0.33%
        Northeast_Asian -
        Mediterranean 38.13%
        North_European 43.82%
        Southeast_Asian -
        Oceanian 0.32%
        South_African -
        Sub-Saharan_African 1.33%

        As you can see, Eurogenes K9b overestimates my North_European and underestimates my Mediterranean. Knowing my ancestry is 100% Sicilian/southern Italian, the Geno 2.0 analysis is clearly more accurate. From what's been posted in this thread so far, it looks like it's finding Native_American that's not there. Maybe that some sort of distant Siberian or Central Asian that's being mistaken for Native_American.
        Last edited by MMaddi; 1 October 2013, 10:19 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MMaddi View Post
          Where did you see that this new calculator is supposed to approximate Geno 2.0's admixture analysis? It didn't do that for me.
          Mike, that's what's posted at the site.

          Here's my Sicilian mother:

          Southwest_Asian 16.36%
          Native_American 0.76%
          Mediterranean 41.57%
          North_European 39.23%
          Oceanian 0.48%
          Sub-Saharan_African 1.61%

          Definitely needs tweeking - NA & Oceanian not probable, and this gives her more North European than any other calculator.

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          • #6
            Once again, another in accurate calculator. I think people should just leave it to scientists or people who really know what they are doing.

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            • #7
              Can someone tell me where to find this calculator on Gedmatch? Thanks

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              • #8
                Originally posted by specialsp321 View Post
                Can someone tell me where to find this calculator on Gedmatch? Thanks
                Log into your Gedmatch account and go to http://ww2.gedmatch.com:8006/autosomal/ap_mix1_gen.php Choose Eurogenes from the pulldown menu and click on the circle for "Admixture Proportions (with link to Oracle)." On the page you're sent to, the default calculator will be Eurogenes K9b. Just put in your Gedmatch kit number and click on the "Continue" button.

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                • #9
                  Many thanks. Found it ok with your help

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by vinnie View Post

                    Definitely needs tweeking - NA & Oceanian not probable, and this gives her more North European than any other calculator.
                    Hopefully, Davidski, the developer of the Eurogenes calculators, will get feedback about the problems with K9b. Maybe he can fix it to be more accurate for those with Sicilian/southern Italian ancestry and look into why people are getting Oceanian and Native_American when that seems highly unlikely, even small amounts.

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                    • #11
                      My Mediterranean is at only 22%. Insanity lol

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MMaddi View Post
                        Hopefully, Davidski, the developer of the Eurogenes calculators, will get feedback about the problems with K9b. Maybe he can fix it to be more accurate for those with Sicilian/southern Italian ancestry and look into why people are getting Oceanian and Native_American when that seems highly unlikely, even small amounts.
                        I just sent him an e-mail with a link to this thread. I've asked him to look into these two problems and see if he can come up with an answer for them.

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                        • #13
                          This calculator does not seem to be accurate at all. It makes me 51.61% Northern European! According to Geno 2, my main component is Mediterranean. If K9b is based on Geno 2, that explains the differences, since my raw data is from 23andMe. Also, Geno's SW Asian peaks in India, more so in southern India, and seems to be a mix of South Asian and West Asian. Very different from the SWA we are used to. Finally, this K9b is quite different from K9.

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                          • #14
                            my admixture

                            Population
                            Southwest_Asian 11.94%
                            Native_American 2.37%
                            Northeast_Asian 0.32%
                            Mediterranean 16.51%
                            North_European 66.89%
                            Southeast_Asian 0.77%
                            Oceanian 0.74%
                            South_African 0.47%
                            Sub-Saharan_African -

                            everything is spot on of what I know except native American

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                            • #15
                              Population
                              Southwest_Asian 6.23%
                              Native_American 0.16%
                              Northeast_Asian 1.02%
                              Mediterranean 17.04%
                              North_European 72.39%
                              Southeast_Asian 1.26%
                              Oceanian 0.28%
                              South_African 0.11%
                              Sub-Saharan_African 1.51%

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