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  • #91
    Originally posted by Svein View Post
    Why did they have to "kill" R1b-L47 when it already existed in the old tree? Now this particular line I administrate has gone back to L48+. I like this "new" tree less and less.
    Seems they have corrected this, at least: L47+ is now back!

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    • #92
      Could someone please post a link to the new Y-DNA tree?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Don Potter View Post
        Could someone please post a link to the new Y-DNA tree?
        Log into your FTDNA account, then under Y-DNA on the strip menu select Haplotree & SNPs.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by gtc View Post
          Log into your FTDNA account, then under Y-DNA on the strip menu select Haplotree & SNPs.


          I had already seen that and I was hoping that wasn't it. How sad.........it doesn't show Z251 below L21. The Z251 SNP has been known of for well over a year now, how could it have not made the tree?

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Don Potter View Post
            I had already seen that and I was hoping that wasn't it. How sad.........it doesn't show Z251 below L21. The Z251 SNP has been known of for well over a year now, how could it have not made the tree?
            Because the "new" tree uses Geno2.0 SNPs which were defined as any SNP before November 2012. This info was from Thomas Krahn, former FTDNA employee.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by thetick View Post
              Because the "new" tree uses Geno2.0 SNPs which were defined as any SNP before November 2012. This info was from Thomas Krahn, former FTDNA employee.
              This is correct.

              Any Y tree needs constant maintenance. FTDNA has made noises that they will be updating their Y tree at least annually. (Whether or not they do that remains to be seen.)

              The closest thing we have to a publicly accessible reasonably up to date Y tree is the ISOGG one, but even that lags behind the trees being assembled by the haplogroup projects on the basis of analyses of the results of Big Y and FGC testing by their members.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by gtc View Post
                ...The closest thing we have to a publicly accessible reasonably up to date Y tree is the ISOGG one...
                At least for my branch I find YFull's experimental tree to be reasonably up-to-date.
                http://www.yfull.com/tree/

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                • #98
                  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

                  It looks like if FTDNA was going to offer SNP tests for Z251, L555, L557, L561 and L583 they would have a tree/chart available on-line to show people there they are located. They obviously know where they are located, so why can't a customer have access to this information? I contacted them with a few questions last Monday and have received nothing back from them. I am sure there is enormous amounts of work to be completed at FTDNA, but I would think that providing a tree/chart would actually eliminate many questions and therefore save them time that could then be used on other matters. Eager to see what I turn up to be below R1b > L21 > Z251

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