Deep Clade Results I1c

[TheresaGriffin]

Does anyone know anything about this haplogroup? There isn't one bit of information on the FamilyTreeDNA site about it.

[krimna]

Here's one link that studys Y-Hapgroup "I" and all of it's clades including I1c.

http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/AJHG_2004_v75_Semino.pdf

[NormanGalway]

here's a link with something...

check out northwestanalysis.net

[TheresaGriffin]

Krimna

I'm sorry to say that after attempting to read that document, my head exploded.

Is there somewhere else that would give a more easily-understood explanation?

Why doesn't FamilyTreeDNA give any space to this Haplogroup? If we pay for deep clade results, we should have deep access to an explanation that's understandable by people other than geneticists, don't you agree?

[krimna]

I'm sorry to say that after attempting to read that document, my head exploded.

Is there somewhere else that would give a more easily-understood explanation?

Why doesn't FamilyTreeDNA give any space to this Haplogroup? If we pay for deep clade results, we should have deep access to an explanation that's understandable by people other than geneticists, don't you agree?

Heh,heh,...Yes, I do Agree. I've recently tested I1b2 With no info regarding this deep clade from FTDNA. It's all new for them really but, I'm sure in the near future FTDNA will begin putting out new info. Just be patient

P.S. I1c is another rare sub-clade. You could possibly try a Google search

[Jim Denning]

Heh,heh,...Yes, I do Agree. I've recently tested I1b2 With no info regarding this deep clade from FTDNA. It's all new for them really but, I'm sure in the near future FTDNA will begin putting out new info. Just be patient

P.S. I1c is another rare sub-clade. You could possibly try a Google search

the reason that ftdna offered these in the way that they did is the infomation is they developed the way to test for it which means its brand new!!! they just have updated the pholy trees and the documents havent been written yet. since every person in ftdna has ordered them they might be doing the tests and not writting the papers things will catch up.
i would talk to who ever is running the I HAPLOGROUP group if there is one

[krimna]

Thanks Jim

[Jim Denning]

theresa after your email i emailed bennett a copy of my email
he emailed back the new roads will be added very soon [hours] by now

[TheresaGriffin]

Thanks, Jim~

I knew you were the guy with the connections!

Theresa

Today a Grant South contacted me re: an I1c project group. I've joined; I'll keep everyone posted.

[Paul Roberts]

Recently identified as I1c also

Theresa:
I am new to this forum, but i had to register when I read your Deep Clade Results are the same as mine. Just like you I would like to understand exactly what this classification means. Could you get me in touch with the gentleman that is studying I1c? My ggg Grandfather came from Wales.
Paul

[TheresaGriffin]

Hi Paul,

If you mean Grant South, here's his email address: [email protected]. Tell him you want to join the I1c group and he'll walk you through it. He'll also post your results on the project's web site. BTW this is a FamilyTreeDNA Project group.

Are your results posted on Ysearch? If so, what's your I.D.#? Do you have your pedigree uploaded, if not, please do.

Dale's number is QDW6G.

Theresa

[Paul Roberts]

Grant South's I1c Project

Dear Theresa:
Thank you for the information. I will contact Mr. South to join his project. I also am on the Y search and my name is NPB3V. I haven't included my family tree as yet. My old information is on there under VYXSJ which I need to delete.
Paul

[wefpam]

Welsh also

To Griffen and Roberts, I am glad to see welsh interested in this subgroup.
Does anyone know what I1cSTR1 becomes in the new system that would use I1b2a - something? Thanks

[TheresaGriffin]

Can you please restate your question differently?

[Stevo]

I1b2a-Cont (Continental), (old) I1c, is the main variety of haplogroup I1b2a. The area of its most dense presence is Northwest Germany and Netherlands, then up into Denmark, and even Southern Sweden and Norway. A good amount is also found in the British Isles, perhaps brought there by the Germanic and Scandinavian invader/immigrants in the historic era. I1b12a-Cont tends to have the high repeat values at DYS389i,ii, it is modal 23 at DYS390; 14 at DYS437; 10 at DYS445; and 21 at C4. There are two varieties of Continental I1b2a. With the new SNPs downstream of M223+ which defines I1b2a --- P78, P95, M379 --- these parts of Continental I1b2a could be connected with separate SNPs, but more testing is needed. Recentl testing did find one Continental I1b2a haplotype as P78+.

Is this the I1c about which you are talking? Or is it something different?

Is it actually called I1b2a now, or I1c?

Sometimes this nomenclature is confusing, especially when it gets changed.