What if I'm female and want to know paternal ancestors?

[Jambalaia32]

Look at the signs-Autosomal and Medical

I'm for testing both Parents.I wanna know the race of both Parents.I don't want my mom passed off as Black,Indian,or Irish if she isn't,but our country really doesn't count girls -major gender bias here.I ain't got a brother,or son and even if I did I can't force them to get tested unless they are very little and I do it against their will.I think the government should MAKE EVERYONE alive submit to DNA testing to Identify their families AND then MAKE everyone carry DNA ID cards with their ethnic code and title spelled out plainly so there would be no second guessing. As for my Paternal side I think it is R1a or I ,but no medical lab or DNA lab will ADMIT it. When you get an Autosomal DNA test of both parents or a MEDICAL genetic test-those scientists KNOW which race group that is,but they won't say anything.I'm pretty sure of it. Maybe one day Mt,Y and Autosomal ,and MedicalDNA will all be joined on a seperate (official) Database ,so a scientist can review all the results at once to come up with a conclusive identity for a person,but so far one type of test rarely reflects on another,so no one can see the relation.

[rainbow]

Rainbow, can you please tell me how you went about obtaining your parental grandmother's birth certificate. I was always under the impression that you had to be that person or that person's parent.

I haven't received it yet.
If you want to get copies of vital records for your own research contact the department of vital records of the state(s) they were from/in.
I have birth & marriage & death records of several ancestors from different states.
It depends on the state though. Maryland will only issue a copy of a marriage record to the person that got married and won't let me , the grandchild, have a copy. So I have my paternal grandparents marriage certificate from New Jersey, but not my maternal grandparents who married in Maryland.
For older records contact the archives of the state your family was from.
Federal records have ship manifests and naturalization records.

[Sw33tdecent]

Rainbow, can you please tell me how you went about obtaining your parental grandmother's birth certificate. I was always under the impression that you had to be that person or that person's parent.

[rainbow]

Still haven't received my paternal grandmother's birth certificate.
In the meantime I found out online when my great-grandmother was born. I still don't know who her parents were. I could send off a request for her birth certificate, but I'll wait for my grandmother's first.

[rainbow]

Cool! Good Luck!

Thank You Yaffa

I've had the list of 5 phone numbers for Roche Biomedical Labs, given to me by Roche Diagnostics, for a month. I finally called. Turns out that all 5 were wrong numbers!
It figures

Last night I sent an application asking for a copy of my paternal grandmother's birth record. It won't help with trying to find out what my father's Y dna is, but I hope it helps to solve the mystery of my 17%.

[Jim Denning]

I run the machelsea-l list and i occasionaly post polish imigrants info to this list
and i have a database of 160,000 names .Mtdna can beused to connect these people
like san danato mentioned below, poland had many records destroyed in ww2


so how can mtdna play a part? simple locations,locations locations

if you have a location which is heavely researched . just a ton of paperwork but some wives if mentioned had no maiden names.So you dont know maybe who this women is except for the name Mary
Now you have the females decended from Mary
Marys husband was a pratt. you have in your database 7 people who decend from that couple 2 might be males decended from Samual Pratt's 6 sons but 5 are females who are decended thru the female lines off of Mary's 7 daughters.

these members are luke warm to all this since maiden names arent available. How can you be sure all the paperwork is true and people did what they said they did

so you get all 7 to test .the two males match making them decendents of Samuel. Now the 5 females test and match exactly proving that they are decendents of Mary so all 7 are related .immediatly all their paperwork merges
and their trees spread wider more like an elm now then a fir.

but does it stop there you have done the genealogy of this tri town area and have many Pratts. Included in this paperwork are familes suspected but not proven to be near these pratts and some never thought to be Pratts

Do you stop testing with these 7 hell no

and people seeing the results fell maybe i can get some new people. As new people test those suspected to be close to the Pratts with no proof maybe they lived in prattville . they get their brother to test and his mtdna matches the 5 sisters decendents and his ydna is his surname Dearborn. Dearborn recruits his uncle to make sure they match they do but the uncle surprises everyone and matches the 5 women decended from mary. Uncle Dearborn has his tree past the Samuel Pratt and Mary. He looks at his time table to see who might be the conection. sure enough in the period his tree has Jacob Dearborn and Priscilla they had 8 kids 5 seemed to survive but only 3 were known to have paperwork past birth .one of the two undocumented was a Mary so this means using his paperwork we find a female decendent of Priscilla. we test her and sure enough she matches the five decendents of Mary ,Mary,Uncle dearborn, nephew Dearborn, this means somehow nephew dearborn's mom and uncle dearborns mom were related to priscilla Jacob's wife

now you merge all the trees involved and the research on the community has guidance on what to expect to find.

I dont know how many of you have done towns genealogys I have and this is more then possible even probable

Now i just started The Frosinone Project.Many people migrated to parts of the world. Now 50+ years later the children want to know am i related to all mazzolas from san danato as i am a mazzola from there . They pilgramage to there yearly.one problem its 8 miles from monte casino. In the battle with the germans there was mass bombings all buildings were leveled . all records destroyed. all grave yards destroyed. only 50 -100 years and no answers

wanna bet ydna makes the families but mtdna connects them. So whats needed is a large database with decendents families .Most know the ggrandparents from american death certs and grave yards,ect.as you accumalate the surname lines and the mtdna lines the process above will pay off at least to connect the mazzolas of the world to san danato

maybe it isnt easy but who said it would be
genealogy never is

[Yaffa]

Good luck!

Cool! Good Luck!

[rainbow]

Checked my email. Roche Diagnostics Communications emailed me again and said they make diagnostic equipment and pharmaceuticals, and they googled Roche Labs and gave me a phone & address list for five Roche Biomedical Labs in Manhattan. I can call them.
When I googled Roche I thought Roche was all one company.

[rainbow]

Cant hurt to follow up on your email with a phone call

I emailed them again, the Canada branch, to ask them to ask the U.S. affiliate again. Then I got an email from US "communications" saying that Roche Diagnostics only makes the equipment and that I have to contact the physician that did the test or the NY. I replied to "communications" to say that the test was done by Roche Labs, in Manhattan, and to please check the records. Haven't heard from them again. I didn't have a physician. The office where the blood was drawn was Roche Labs.

[Yaffa]

can hurt

update: I haven't heard from Roche Diagnostics.

Cant hurt to follow up on your email with a phone call

[rainbow]

update: I haven't heard from Roche Diagnostics.

[Yaffa]

Rainbow

I don't think you or anyone is a walking biological mess. We're just living, breathing rainbows.

I like the Idea of being called a rainbow, my adoption papers make me look a mess. 2 generations of false papers.

Jodi

[rainbow]

Rainbow,

You could report the issue of the false name to the court. If the Judge is still alive I would find out his address, send him copies of the medical and paternity results with a letter. If he is not still practicing or still alive, I would petition the court and demand it be corrected being that you have a paternity test as proof.

I am in the process of the same thing with my adoption and my biological mother's adoption. Both the info in my adoption is false and so is my biological mothers. My mother's is worse because my grandmother put 3 different names on my mothers adoption and her original BC doesn't match up to the adoption. She also lied about my mother's heritage and passed her off a a white baby. I am truly a wakling biological mess.

Jodi

I don't think you or anyone is a walking biological mess. We're just living, breathing rainbows.

[Yaffa]

Another Thought

I'm waiting to hear from Roche lab. I had emailed the Canadian branch and they emailed me to tell me they forwarded my email to the U.S. affiliate of Roche Diagnostics.
It would be nice if I could have my fathers blood tested for admixture analysis and Ydna. We had HLA testing done thru Roche.

His own personal medical papers, that my father handed to me in the courthouse, has a bogus name on it, so I don't think that medical facility could help me. I wished the court looked at the papers for me before it was given to me during one of the hearings. I was so stressed out at that time and that is why I didn't notice the fake name on there. I never before heard of anyone using a fake name at the doctor's, so that was completely unexpected. He used the name "Aaron Burr". He has something called osteomyelitis.

Rainbow,

You could report the issue of the false name to the court. If the Judge is still alive I would find out his address, send him copies of the medical and paternity results with a letter. If he is not still practicing or still alive, I would petition the court and demand it be corrected being that you have a paternity test as proof.

I am in the process of the same thing with my adoption and my biological mother's adoption. Both the info in my adoption is false and so is my biological mothers. My mother's is worse because my grandmother put 3 different names on my mothers adoption and her original BC doesn't match up to the adoption. She also lied about my mother's heritage and passed her off a a white baby. I am truly a wakling biological mess.

Jodi

[rainbow]

I'm waiting to hear from Roche lab. I had emailed the Canadian branch and they emailed me to tell me they forwarded my email to the U.S. affiliate of Roche Diagnostics.
It would be nice if I could have my fathers blood tested for admixture analysis and Ydna. We had HLA testing done thru Roche.

His own personal medical papers, that my father handed to me in the courthouse, has a bogus name on it, so I don't think that medical facility could help me. I wished the court looked at the papers for me before it was given to me during one of the hearings. I was so stressed out at that time and that is why I didn't notice the fake name on there. I never before heard of anyone using a fake name at the doctor's, so that was completely unexpected. He used the name "Aaron Burr". He has something called osteomyelitis.