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  • #31
    Good luck!

    Cool! Good Luck!


    • #32
      I run the machelsea-l list and i occasionaly post polish imigrants info to this list
      and i have a database of 160,000 names .Mtdna can beused to connect these people
      like san danato mentioned below, poland had many records destroyed in ww2

      so how can mtdna play a part? simple locations,locations locations

      if you have a location which is heavely researched . just a ton of paperwork but some wives if mentioned had no maiden names.So you dont know maybe who this women is except for the name Mary
      Now you have the females decended from Mary
      Marys husband was a pratt. you have in your database 7 people who decend from that couple 2 might be males decended from Samual Pratt's 6 sons but 5 are females who are decended thru the female lines off of Mary's 7 daughters.

      these members are luke warm to all this since maiden names arent available. How can you be sure all the paperwork is true and people did what they said they did

      so you get all 7 to test .the two males match making them decendents of Samuel. Now the 5 females test and match exactly proving that they are decendents of Mary so all 7 are related .immediatly all their paperwork merges
      and their trees spread wider more like an elm now then a fir.

      but does it stop there you have done the genealogy of this tri town area and have many Pratts. Included in this paperwork are familes suspected but not proven to be near these pratts and some never thought to be Pratts

      Do you stop testing with these 7 hell no

      and people seeing the results fell maybe i can get some new people. As new people test those suspected to be close to the Pratts with no proof maybe they lived in prattville . they get their brother to test and his mtdna matches the 5 sisters decendents and his ydna is his surname Dearborn. Dearborn recruits his uncle to make sure they match they do but the uncle surprises everyone and matches the 5 women decended from mary. Uncle Dearborn has his tree past the Samuel Pratt and Mary. He looks at his time table to see who might be the conection. sure enough in the period his tree has Jacob Dearborn and Priscilla they had 8 kids 5 seemed to survive but only 3 were known to have paperwork past birth .one of the two undocumented was a Mary so this means using his paperwork we find a female decendent of Priscilla. we test her and sure enough she matches the five decendents of Mary ,Mary,Uncle dearborn, nephew Dearborn, this means somehow nephew dearborn's mom and uncle dearborns mom were related to priscilla Jacob's wife

      now you merge all the trees involved and the research on the community has guidance on what to expect to find.

      I dont know how many of you have done towns genealogys I have and this is more then possible even probable

      Now i just started The Frosinone Project.Many people migrated to parts of the world. Now 50+ years later the children want to know am i related to all mazzolas from san danato as i am a mazzola from there . They pilgramage to there problem its 8 miles from monte casino. In the battle with the germans there was mass bombings all buildings were leveled . all records destroyed. all grave yards destroyed. only 50 -100 years and no answers

      wanna bet ydna makes the families but mtdna connects them. So whats needed is a large database with decendents families .Most know the ggrandparents from american death certs and grave yards, you accumalate the surname lines and the mtdna lines the process above will pay off at least to connect the mazzolas of the world to san danato

      maybe it isnt easy but who said it would be
      genealogy never is


      • #33
        Originally posted by Yaffa
        Cool! Good Luck!

        Thank You Yaffa

        I've had the list of 5 phone numbers for Roche Biomedical Labs, given to me by Roche Diagnostics, for a month. I finally called. Turns out that all 5 were wrong numbers!
        It figures

        Last night I sent an application asking for a copy of my paternal grandmother's birth record. It won't help with trying to find out what my father's Y dna is, but I hope it helps to solve the mystery of my 17%.
        Last edited by rainbow; 9 November 2007, 09:35 PM.


        • #34
          Still haven't received my paternal grandmother's birth certificate.
          In the meantime I found out online when my great-grandmother was born. I still don't know who her parents were. I could send off a request for her birth certificate, but I'll wait for my grandmother's first.
          Last edited by rainbow; 6 January 2008, 02:12 AM.


          • #35
            Rainbow, can you please tell me how you went about obtaining your parental grandmother's birth certificate. I was always under the impression that you had to be that person or that person's parent.


            • #36
              Originally posted by Sw33tdecent
              Rainbow, can you please tell me how you went about obtaining your parental grandmother's birth certificate. I was always under the impression that you had to be that person or that person's parent.
              I haven't received it yet.
              If you want to get copies of vital records for your own research contact the department of vital records of the state(s) they were from/in.
              I have birth & marriage & death records of several ancestors from different states.
              It depends on the state though. Maryland will only issue a copy of a marriage record to the person that got married and won't let me , the grandchild, have a copy. So I have my paternal grandparents marriage certificate from New Jersey, but not my maternal grandparents who married in Maryland.
              For older records contact the archives of the state your family was from.
              Federal records have ship manifests and naturalization records.


              • #37
                Look at the signs-Autosomal and Medical

                I'm for testing both Parents.I wanna know the race of both Parents.I don't want my mom passed off as Black,Indian,or Irish if she isn't,but our country really doesn't count girls -major gender bias here.I ain't got a brother,or son and even if I did I can't force them to get tested unless they are very little and I do it against their will.I think the government should MAKE EVERYONE alive submit to DNA testing to Identify their families AND then MAKE everyone carry DNA ID cards with their ethnic code and title spelled out plainly so there would be no second guessing. As for my Paternal side I think it is R1a or I ,but no medical lab or DNA lab will ADMIT it. When you get an Autosomal DNA test of both parents or a MEDICAL genetic test-those scientists KNOW which race group that is,but they won't say anything.I'm pretty sure of it. Maybe one day Mt,Y and Autosomal ,and MedicalDNA will all be joined on a seperate (official) Database ,so a scientist can review all the results at once to come up with a conclusive identity for a person,but so far one type of test rarely reflects on another,so no one can see the relation.
                Last edited by Jambalaia32; 19 March 2008, 03:53 AM. Reason: left out a word