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    A 'cousin' is R1b1b2a1a1a on 23andMe. Is this U106* or a subclade?

    I ask as the kits I manage have only low (0-6 of over 500 per kit) matches.

    Ysearch 8ZN8K

    Thanks

  • #2
    Originally posted by Solothurn View Post
    A 'cousin' is R1b1b2a1a1a on 23andMe. Is this U106* or a subclade?

    I ask as the kits I manage have only low (0-6 of over 500 per kit) matches.

    Ysearch 8ZN8K

    Thanks
    I believe your cousin U198+.He is a GD of 9 of the U198 modal.
    Last edited by 1798; 18th January 2013, 07:44 AM. Reason: mistake

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Solothurn View Post
      A 'cousin' is R1b1b2a1a1a on 23andMe. Is this U106* or a subclade?
      Thanks
      If you go to Ancestry Labs > Haplogroup Tree Mutation Mapper >
      you can see the defining SNP mutations.
      They use M405 to define U106

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      • #4
        It's R1b>U106>U198

        23andMe uses M405 for U106 and M467 for U198.

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        • #5
          Thanks

          In the project they are in on FTDNA (R1b1 Group) there are 'confirmed' R1b1a2a1a1a4 and a R1b1a2a1a1a1:

          http://www.familytreedna.com/public/...ion=ycolorized

          They haven't SNP tested at FTDNA, but is there any way to look at their markers and test for a particular SNP that 23andMe haven't?

          Also, is R1b1b2a1a1a the same on ysearch?

          Thanks again!

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          • #6
            As posted elsewhere, I gather that 23andMe is still using the ISOGG 2009 tree.

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            • #7
              As posted elsewhere, I gather that 23andMe is still using the ISOGG 2009 tree.
              Yes they are . It causes endless confusion among new users particularly when they have tested here as well. 23andme gives a fairly deep clade Y test as part of the initial price.

              For example a dual tester will ask: Why am i R1b1- M269 here and R1b1b2a1a2f* at 23andme ?

              Obviously to answer this question thoroughly requires a lot of effort on the part of the responder

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Brunetmj View Post
                Yes they are . It causes endless confusion among new users particularly when they have tested here as well. 23andme gives a fairly deep clade Y test as part of the initial price.

                For example a dual tester will ask: Why am i R1b1- M269 here and R1b1b2a1a2f* at 23andme ?

                Obviously to answer this question thoroughly requires a lot of effort on the part of the responder
                IMO, the sooner the "longhand" form is dropped in correspondence, the better.

                Meanwhile, somebody ought to nudge 23andMe that it's 2013 already. They really don't need to be compared with FTDNA's haplotree timewarp.
                Last edited by gtc; 20th January 2013, 09:30 PM.

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                • #9
                  All sorted now, thanks to all of you

                  They are now in the U198 project!

                  Does anybody know if there are any new SNPs within Geno for U198?

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