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    I had my 1st cousin Joan who is the granddaughter of Mary Elizabeth Irvine and Norman who is her son both took the mtDNA test. A birth certificate for her has never been found and the concensus is for whatever reason one was never acquired. This wouldn't be bad if we knew her mother.

    So I have taken the FamilyFinder along with everyone else. My question is where would one start in locating her and would it help if I took the mtDNA test or am I barking up the wrong tree?
    Rich

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    If your cousin, Joan, is a direct female descendant of Mary Irvine, both Joan and her son would have Mary Irvine's mtDNA. Was your mother a direct female (no father's between) descendant of Mary Irvine as well? If so since you share your mother's mtDNA, you should also show up as a mtDNA match with your cousin.

    Matching prospective descendants of a maternal line is what mtDNA is basically good for. In other words, actually confirming someone is a match, not just looking for matches. Looking for maternal names it isn't so good for since maternal names change with each marriage.

    Another question is did you have your cousin do a complete mtDNA test, the FMS with region, or just to HRV2 level. You can have any number of HRV2 levels matches who won't match you on the FF autosomal tests. Actually you can have FMS tests who won't match you as cousins as well. The mtDNA can go back hundreds and thousands of years.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by keigh View Post
      If your cousin, Joan, is a direct female descendant of Mary Irvine, both Joan and her son would have Mary Irvine's mtDNA. Was your mother a direct female (no father's between) descendant of Mary Irvine as well? If so since you share your mother's mtDNA, you should also show up as a mtDNA match with your cousin.

      Matching prospective descendants of a maternal line is what mtDNA is basically good for. In other words, actually confirming someone is a match, not just looking for matches. Looking for maternal names it isn't so good for since maternal names change with each marriage.

      Another question is did you have your cousin do a complete mtDNA test, the FMS with region, or just to HRV2 level. You can have any number of HRV2 levels matches who won't match you on the FF autosomal tests. Actually you can have FMS tests who won't match you as cousins as well. The mtDNA can go back hundreds and thousands of years.
      MYDNA is the best test out there. 0-0-0 is a real match

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      • #4
        Originally posted by richjh View Post
        I had my 1st cousin Joan who is the granddaughter of Mary Elizabeth Irvine and Norman who is her son both took the mtDNA test. A birth certificate for her has never been found and the concensus is for whatever reason one was never acquired. This wouldn't be bad if we knew her mother.

        So I have taken the FamilyFinder along with everyone else. My question is where would one start in locating her and would it help if I took the mtDNA test or am I barking up the wrong tree?
        Rich
        The mtDNA passes from mother to her children (male and female) but only the female children pass it on to the next generation etc. It looks like you mentioned in another post that you are trying to find a paternal grandmother this Mary Elizabeth Irvine. So the answer is no, taking the mtDNA test yourself would be of no benefit as you received your mtDNA from your mother not your father. If you want people to help you, you need to explain better what you are trying to do and the exact relationships of the people involved as it matters greatly in how DNA is passed.

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        • #5
          Mattn,
          Now that finally makes perfect sense. I was very fortunate to get the mtDNA from her granddaughter. Her mother was Mae Haggan the daughter of Mary Elizabeth Irvine. I also got the DNA from my uncle the son of Mary Elizabeth Irvine. Just to be sure along with his yDNA67 I also had him take the mtDNA test. Hopefully that covers all the bases
          Rich


          Originally posted by mattn View Post
          The mtDNA passes from mother to her children (male and female) but only the female children pass it on to the next generation etc. It looks like you mentioned in another post that you are trying to find a paternal grandmother this Mary Elizabeth Irvine. So the answer is no, taking the mtDNA test yourself would be of no benefit as you received your mtDNA from your mother not your father. If you want people to help you, you need to explain better what you are trying to do and the exact relationships of the people involved as it matters greatly in how DNA is passed.
          Last edited by richjh; 28th October 2016, 02:05 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by richjh View Post
            Mattn,
            Now that finally makes perfect sense. I was very fortunate to get the mtDNA from her granddaughter. Her mother was Mae Haggan the daughter of Mary Elizabeth Irvine. I also got the DNA from my uncle the son of Mary Elizabeth Irvine. Just to be sure along with his yDNA67 I also had him take the mtDNA test. Hopefully that covers all the bases
            Rich
            Yes, the granddaughter Joan and the son Norman should match on an mtDNA test both receiving their mtDNA from Mary Elizabeth Irvine if your genealogy is correct. Reading your other posts it is not clear to me what you are actually looking for, it is not clear if you are trying to confirm that she is indeed your grandmother or if you are trying to find her parents or both.

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            • #7
              Joan's mother was Mary Hagan who's mother was Mary Elizaeth Irvine. I also had her son my uncle take the mtDNA test in hopes that someday I can find her family. Both party's results are in. I figure by cross referencing each other that I might be able to find her.
              My mother was a Risk from Belfast also.
              Rich


              Originally posted by keigh View Post
              If your cousin, Joan, is a direct female descendant of Mary Irvine, both Joan and her son would have Mary Irvine's mtDNA. Was your mother a direct female (no father's between) descendant of Mary Irvine as well? If so since you share your mother's mtDNA, you should also show up as a mtDNA match with your cousin.

              Matching prospective descendants of a maternal line is what mtDNA is basically good for. In other words, actually confirming someone is a match, not just looking for matches. Looking for maternal names it isn't so good for since maternal names change with each marriage.

              Another question is did you have your cousin do a complete mtDNA test, the FMS with region, or just to HRV2 level. You can have any number of HRV2 levels matches who won't match you on the FF autosomal tests. Actually you can have FMS tests who won't match you as cousins as well. The mtDNA can go back hundreds and thousands of years.

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              • #8
                Direct decendant

                Joan Bailie's mother was Mary Hagan the daughter of Mary Elizabeth Irvine.
                Rich
                P.S. - I've been away for sometime.

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