Haplogroup H

[Elistariel]

To get tested for your subclade, you have to order FTDNA's subclade test, not the HVR2. I'm not sure if all subclades can be predicted from HVR results. You can decide later if you want to test your HVR2 too, to get a better resolution within your subclade.

Thanks. I'll have to wait to do that. I don't have the money right now.

[jezgirl]

HV1 help

Just got my first set of results back and I'm having a difficult time finding any information at all, except that they say "there is a low frequency rate" found in Europe. That's it? That's all there is?
Can someone shed some light.

HV1

16067T

16183C

16189C

16519C

Anyone else similar? Comments? Questions? Help.

[vraatyah]

>HV1
16067T
16183C
16189C
16519C
Anyone else similar? Comments? Questions? Help.





Vernesi 2001, Greece
067-183d-189-354
16024-16383
1 of 48

Kouvatsi 2001, Greece
067-183C-189-354
152-263-315.1C
(16050-16391; 73-340)
1 of 54

I suspect, both sequences with the transition at 354 site are more related to other HVs with 354 than to your variant.

SWGDAM, Armed Forces DNA Lab, Caucasian
067-183C-189-260
263-309.1C-315.1C
(16024-16365; 73-340)
1 of 1244

SWGDAM, Armed Forces DNA Lab, Caucasian
067-183C-189-260
152-263-309.1C-309.2C-315.1C-317N
(16024-16365; 73-340)
1 of 1244

Behar 2004, Jews Ashkenazi
HV1
067-182C-183C-189
(16024–16383)
1 of 565

Behar 2004, Jews Ashkenazi
HV1
067-183C-189
(16024–16383)
18 of 565

Behar 2004, Jews Ashkenazi
HV1
067-183C-189-215T
(16024–16383)
1 of 565

[M.O'Connor]

are those people "H" haplo?

[vraatyah]

are those people "H" haplo?

none.
HV = H, pre-V, HV1, HV2, HV3, HV*.

[Elistariel]

Is there any known correlation betwen 16261T and subclade H7?
I've found 35 matches here on ftdna. Several H, one H*, and several more H7s.
What information is there on H7?

[radio1]

where did you get your source material?

For vraatyah....
where did you find that stuff and why can't I locate that here? Who is Behar 2004?

[vraatyah]

Is there any known correlation betwen 16261T and subclade H7?
I've found 35 matches here on ftdna. Several H, one H*, and several more H7s.
What information is there on H7?

The correlation does exist although it isn't too strong. More than half of Hs with only one change at 261 site fall into H7 after the subclade test.

[vraatyah]

where did you find that stuff and why can't I locate that here?

What does "here" mean? If you meant to say "in this website", why do you think it's a good place to search for the special literature?

Who is Behar 2004?

Doron M Behar et al, MtDNA evidence for a genetic bottleneck in the early
history of the Ashkenazi Jewish population, European Journal of Human Genetics, (2004) 12, 355–364

[radio1]

"Here" meaning this website

vraatyah,
When I asked why I couldn't find info similar to your "here" I did mean this website. The reason I asked, if it wasn't readily obvious" is that I'm new to this subject. I'm trying to gather as much information as I can, wherever I can. I thought, as many other people here think, that by purchasing my testkit I would get not only literal results but find links research, possibly have a database available to use online and more tools available to put together a genetic "picture" or timeline of some kind to help put the results into some kind of perspective. I thought that instead of my begging for help at the message boards from a passerby, that the kind folks at FTDNA would have helped guide me to put some type of profile together.
I'm sure this website is lightyears ahead of where it was just a few years ago when they started doing this kind of testing. But for the rest of us who don't come from academia, this site seems kind of like "basic cable" but we thought we were getting "digital cable", if you get the metaphor. I thought getting genetic research done was cutting edge but the assistance I've received so far, with interpretation of the data is primitive.

[eahunt]

My sentiments exactly

Although we are "laymen" trying to learn, I have found that the only information I have received about my test has been from Mr. "V" on this forum. I was hoping to find out more, but I guess we will be waiting for another day. Just hope it isn't a century away.

So, I have a question. I have been bugging my husband's cousin for over a year to have a Ydna test done to help us with the brick wall we have hit on our "Long" family tree. We suspect that the line goes to a NC clan from the 1700's. I really don't want to look foolish to my husband's group, so if there is no possibility of learning something about the "Long" family.

[M.O'Connor]

wouldn't your husband's sequence and his (male) cousin be the same?
(probably a very close genetic match if not the same.)

What can you learn from your husband's cousin that you don't already know?

Were there any close matches for your husband in the Long DNA Project?

[lgmayka]

wouldn't your husband's sequence and his (male) cousin be the same?
(probably a very close genetic match if not the same.)

No, because they have different last names. She is implying that her husband and the cousin descend from a common grandparent other than father's father.

[M.O'Connor]

Oh...not a direct male thing...ok..

[lelliott]

16519c

What does that mean?

I too have a mutation at 16519c in haplogroup H, and I wonder if the deviations from the CRS imply that there will be more branching of Haplogroup H, since it's been studied the longest.

My earliest known female ancestor was named Mary ___? from Duplin County North Carolina, born in 1755, which is only the tip of the iceberg for this purpose.

Lynn