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    Researchers find early Europeans may have come from Asia as well as Africa
    Published: Monday, August 6, 2007 | 5:49 PM ET
    Canadian Press: RANDOLPH E. SCHMID
    WASHINGTON (AP) - Early human-like residents of Europe may have arrived out of Asia, rather than just Africa.

    An international team of researchers reports in Monday's online edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that Asians appear to have played a larger part in the settlement of Europe than did Africans.

    The team led by Maria Martinon-Torres of the National Center for the Investigation of Human Evolution, in Burgos, Spain, reached that conclusion after analyzing more than 5,000 fossil teeth from early hominins, an early form of human predecessors.

    After studying ancient teeth from Africa, Asia and Europe, the researchers report that early European populations had more Asian features than African ones.

    That conclusion also supports the theory that the development of the genus Homo - modern humans are Homo sapiens - occurred both in Africa and Asia.

    The teeth studied were from the genera Homo and the earlier Australopithecus.

    "The history of human populations in Eurasia may not have been the result of a few high-impact replacement waves of dispersals from Africa, but a much more complex puzzle of dispersals," Martinon-Torres' team wrote.

    The differences in tooth formation, dimensions and shapes in Europe and Asia and that of Africa suggest separate evolutionary courses for a long period, they said.

    That doesn't mean there was no genetic flow between Africa and Eurasia, but rather that the Eurasians were probably descendants of an ancient out-of-Africa exodus, they said.

    Milford Wolpoff, an anthropologist at the University of Michigan, noted that dental evidence is always difficult to work with and said this research team did "a very good job."

    The idea that human evolution involved small and relatively isolated populations for much of its history, with a migration out of Africa and other migrations between continents, "is in concordance with the interpretations of paleoanthropologists," he said.

    "It may be in different languages, but we are singing the same song," said Wolpoff, who was not part of the research team.

    The research was supported by the Spanish Ministry of Science and Education, Fundacion Caja Madrid, Fundacion Atapuerca, Fundacion Duques de Soria and the Georgian National Museum.

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    environmenntal observation

    The vast area around the Caspian/Aral seas were relatively well watered in prehistoric times, from what I gather. And there was a waterway connection with the Arctic Sea - possibly intermittent. So there would've been good hunting and foraging there for early Homo sapiens.

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    • #3
      Predictions

      Originally posted by PDHOTLEN
      The vast area around the Caspian/Aral seas were relatively well watered in prehistoric times, from what I gather. And there was a waterway connection with the Arctic Sea - possibly intermittent. So there would've been good hunting and foraging there for early Homo sapiens.
      That is very interesting and I Agree.
      I work as a clairvoyant psychic most of the day and
      have a nack at predictions.
      Maybe I am leaving myself wide open ummm..for..
      petty remarks.
      Anyway I feel that people did develop or evolutize..but..it was separately
      not from a main starting point like africa.
      Possible Native Americans came from Americas only not Asia.
      Asians are from Asian and Africans from africa.
      Europeans from Europe.
      I also feel India will be a world power by year 3001.
      You can mark my word on this....

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dnaval
        That is very interesting and I Agree.
        I work as a clairvoyant psychic most of the day and
        have a nack at predictions.
        Maybe I am leaving myself wide open ummm..for..
        petty remarks.
        Anyway I feel that people did develop or evolutize..but..it was separately
        not from a main starting point like africa.
        Possible Native Americans came from Americas only not Asia.
        Asians are from Asian and Africans from africa.
        Europeans from Europe.
        I also feel India will be a world power by year 3001.
        You can mark my word on this....
        You would find find some support for the idea that Native Americans evolved in the Americas, among Native Americans. They would explain the DNA correspondence between their DNA and that of Asians as evidence of a expansion out of the Americas into Asia, via the Bering land bridge or some other route, as opposed to the mainstream idea that the colonization moved in the opposite direction.

        The problem then becomes how you get the precursors of modern humans into that land mass now known as the Americas. If a deity is to be invoked there will be NO PROBLEM. But if genetics is to be enlisted as proof then this thread will inevitably expand to involve Equus, the horse, an arrangement of continents that occurred prior to the the arrival of hominid predecessors, and a complete overturning of evolution.

        Go for it!!!

        Frankly, I don't think you can reasonably imagine that FTDNA forums is the place to enshrine your prediction that 1000 years in the future India will be a world power. I am looking forward to the BOOK.

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        • #5
          Caspian Tiger

          The recently extinct Caspian Tiger was found in the Caspian region. That seems to point to there being large mammals for it to prey on; pointing to good hunting for early peoples.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dnaval
            I feel that people did develop or evolutize..but..it was separately not from a main starting point like africa.
            Possible Native Americans came from Americas only not Asia.
            Asians are from Asian and Africans from africa.
            Europeans from Europe.
            ("evolutize" do you mean evolve?)

            You really didn't get the same genetic profile that everyone else did, did you? My map showed stops along the way out of Africa to Europe.

            I guess there isn't one single point of genetic material in your entire DNA profile which points to the fact that your deep genetic ancestry began on the continent of Africa over 40,000 years ago.

            Which part of your DNA profile are you most trying to deny?

            Different groups were ISOLATED from others for tens of thousands of years, which is the only reason why there are people of different skin colors, hair textures and body types. And that's all there really is to it.

            In your spare time, why not consider taking a Physical Anthropology class, they are offered at many community colleges.
            Last edited by VelvetVellocet; 21 August 2007, 01:49 AM.

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            • #7
              Asia is a big place

              Since central Asia seems to be the center point of later dispersal, my comments have focused there. India seems to have been a catch basin for repeated in-migrations. China seems to have been an end point.

              It looks like we are talking at least 50,000 years ago for the Central Asian focal point to emerge. That takes us back to the last Interglacial Period, or at the close of it. Neanderthals were there prior to then. Just imagine the array of Pleistocene megafauna inhabiting that region; mammoths, wild horses, various wild bovines, various deer, Saiga Antelope, wild boar, et al. Some were out on the grassy plains, and some were along the wooded rivers. Vast marshes held billions of waterfowl and stately cranes, etc. But that vast area has steadily dried up; which may be why various peoples migrated away, such as toward Western Europe.

              Well, it's just my imagination.

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