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  • Carlisle was just the first of many Indian Schools eventually established all over the US.

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    • Originally posted by Yaffa
      Just so you know, it is not a complete list of all the children. My friend's grandparents were there. He has their records but they are not on the list above. I hope one day they issue a complete list.

      Thanks
      Jodi
      I didn't know that.
      I know that there are 186 graves of schoolchildren who died at Carlisle.

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      • Originally posted by tomcat
        Carlisle was just the first of many Indian Schools eventually established all over the US.
        Yes, I know that. Canada also had schools for Indian children to be assimilated.
        And I found out that at Carlisle even if a child wanted to talk to someone who spoke their language they couldn't because they were separated into different classes. Before that the school staff would put soap in their mouths for talking their own language.
        Originally posted by rainbow
        That is a list from just one of the many Indian boarding schools.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_boarding_school

        Cultural genocide.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Genocide
        Last edited by rainbow; 4 August 2007, 04:42 PM.

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        • American Indian Admixture

          Originally posted by rainbow
          Yes, I know that. Canada also had schools for Indian children to be assimilated.
          And I found out that at Carlisle even if a child wanted to talk to someone who spoke their language they couldn't because they were separated into different classes. Before that the school staff would put soap in their mouths for talking their own language.
          Yes the soap story is true. This happened to my friend's grandparents and when they left the school they stayed up north in NY and did not go back to their tribe.

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          • American Indian Admixture

            Originally posted by rainbow
            I didn't know that.
            I know that there are 186 graves of schoolchildren who died at Carlisle.
            I am not confirming this is true but I heard some children committed suicide They were homesick and could not deal with the culture shock. I know that some ran away and went back to their tribes.

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            • Originally posted by Yaffa
              I am not confirming this is true but I heard some children committed suicide They were homesick and could not deal with the culture shock. I know that some ran away and went back to their tribes.

              This link says 190 died, that is why a cemetery was needed at the school.
              http://home.epix.net/~landis/histry.html

              Here is a photo the historic site marker that says 186 graves.

              Can you believe it is advertised in tourism!?! The resting place of 186 re-interred American Indian children who died while attending the Carlisle School. What happened to the other 4 kids?
              Were there actually more than the 190 that we know of?
              http://www.visitcumberlandvalley.com...ails.asp?ID=61
              Last edited by rainbow; 4 August 2007, 05:34 PM.

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              • Originally posted by rainbow
                This link says 190 died, that is why a cemetery was needed at the school.
                http://home.epix.net/~landis/histry.html

                Can you believe it is advertised in tourism!?! 186 children re-interred.
                http://www.visitcumberlandvalley.com...ails.asp?ID=61
                I know many died of sickness MAYBE some suicide.
                Tourism?????????????????????????????????

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                • Originally posted by rainbow
                  I didn't know that.
                  I know that there are 186 graves of schoolchildren who died at Carlisle.
                  The marker says over 10,000 children went to Carlisle.
                  Carlisle was just one of many schools throughout the USA & Canada to assimilate American Indian children into white Protestant society.
                  Last edited by rainbow; 4 August 2007, 05:48 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by rainbow
                    The marker says over 10,000 children went to Carlisle.
                    Carlisle was just one of many schools throughout the USA & Canada to assimilate American Indian children into white Protestant society. The schools were run by protestant missionaries.
                    On the west coast is where my maternal line came from. Those were the Catholic missions run by the Spainards. Still can find any record on my family and the Spainards kept much better records that the US. Especially listing people of color. Mezito/Mezita was you were Indian/European mixed. Mulatto/Mulatta was you were mixed with Afro. Some indians were so dark they listed them as Mulatto even though they were not Afro, but at least they list them of color. Here in the US they used the term Mulatto for anyone that didn't look white or looked mixed.

                    Jodi
                    MT-DNA Haplogroup B

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                    • Full Bloods died of white man's diseases

                      Most of the Native Americans in the Bellingham, WA area are "mixed bloods", even though some may apear to be "full bloods." At least that is what I read somewhere. The simple reason is that pure-blooded Native Americans were mostly killed off by epidemics.

                      On the other hand, there has been a relatively recent influx of Native Americans into this area from the interior, and who may be "full bloods."

                      That is my understanding. I hope I didn't offend anyone.

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                      • [QUOTE=Yaffa]I know many died of sickness MAYBE some suicide.
                        ...QUOTE]

                        Outbreaks of infectious disease were a chronic problem at all schools right-up to the day they were closed, although the problem was alleviated by the reforms of the 1920's.

                        This was the same sort of problem armies faced before the modern era. Most of the casualties of the Civil War succumbed to disease rather than battlefield wounds.

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                        • [QUOTE=tomcat]
                          Originally posted by Yaffa
                          I know many died of sickness MAYBE some suicide.
                          ...QUOTE]

                          Outbreaks of infectious disease were a chronic problem at all schools right-up to the day they were closed, although the problem was alleviated by the reforms of the 1920's.

                          This was the same sort of problem armies faced before the modern era. Most of the casualties of the Civil War succumbed to disease rather than battlefield wounds.
                          My 3rd ggrandfather was taken a prisoner of war during the Civil War. He was transfered to Point Lookout Prison, MD where he died of disease. He is buried at the prison cemetery.

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                          • Very proud...

                            Well I am one person who is very proud to be mixed blood! Even though it is only 10%. (Well it could be as high as 18%, but less likely)
                            Maria

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                            • Very Proud

                              Originally posted by Maria_W
                              Well I am one person who is very proud to be mixed blood! Even though it is only 10%. (Well it could be as high as 18%, but less likely)
                              Maria
                              All us mixed bloods should be proud no matter what %. Never have to argue over which might be superior over the other. We get to claim many cultures and I think thats special!

                              Jodi

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                              • Indian Schools

                                Originally posted by rainbow
                                McMinn TN has Cherokee history. they talk about the Indian School there

                                http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmcminn/#Queries

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