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    I have been wondering how much the Genographic Project is going to be able to tell us (the world), given that it tests for only 12 markers.

    Ever notice how little information one gets from 12 markers? How many people cannot even get a y-haplogroup prediction from 12 markers, or how many get a prediction that turns out to have been wrong?

    I guess maybe we will get some broad brush strokes from the Genographic Project, but that will probably be it.

    I guess something is better than nothing.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Stevo
    I have been wondering how much the Genographic Project is going to be able to tell us (the world), given that it tests for only 12 markers.
    The 12 marker test is for "public participants" not the indigenous and traditional participants, whose blood samples are analyzed at research labs (not FTDNA).

    The public participation kits should be thought of as principally a PR and fundraising tool.

    The real research is being done on the indigenous and traditional participants, who are getting much more complete Y-STR and SNP workups.
    Last edited by vineviz; 27 July 2006, 10:26 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by vineviz
      The 12 marker test is for "public participants" not the indigenous and traditional participants, whose blood samples are analyzed at research labs (not FTDNA).

      The public participation kits should be thought of as principally a PR and fundraising tool.

      The real research is being done on the indigenous and traditional participants, who are getting much more complete Y-STR and SNP workups.
      I wasn't aware of that distinction between public participants and native populations.

      Thanks.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by vineviz
        The 12 marker test is for "public participants" not the indigenous and traditional participants, whose blood samples are analyzed at research labs (not FTDNA).

        The public participation kits should be thought of as principally a PR and fundraising tool.

        The real research is being done on the indigenous and traditional participants, who are getting much more complete Y-STR and SNP workups.
        ...So if your cheek swab comes up a Native American Haplogroup does Dr. Welles come to your house and suck your blood out?

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by vineviz
          The 12 marker test is for "public participants" not the indigenous and traditional participants, whose blood samples are analyzed at research labs (not FTDNA).

          The public participation kits should be thought of as principally a PR and fundraising tool.

          The real research is being done on the indigenous and traditional participants, who are getting much more complete Y-STR and SNP workups.

          where do you get a more complete SNP workup, would this SNP be an Autosomal test, and what companies do this, I guess Im a public participants class and I need a really deep Autosomal Test and I don't know which test or company, ??????

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          • #6
            Originally posted by taba2much
            where do you get a more complete SNP workup, would this SNP be an Autosomal test, and what companies do this, I guess Im a public participants class and I need a really deep Autosomal Test and I don't know which test or company, ??????
            First, not all SNP tests are commerically available, so the research labs can test for things that other companies do not.

            Second, there is no such thing as a "deep" autosomal test. By definition, since your DNA recombines every generation, they cannot peer deep into your ancestry.

            Third, the SNP tests done by the Genographic project are almost certainly aimed at the Y-chromosome and mtDNA and not the autosomal region. This type of test is readily available from many firms (given the first caveat I mentioned), but some are better than others for different haplogroups.

            Has your haplogroup been predicted based on the Genographic results?

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