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    Help.
    My Genographic Haplogroup is R1b.
    When those results were uploaded to FTDNA the Haplogroup became R1b1.
    Why did it change and does it matter?
    Thanks,
    JWH

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    Originally posted by JWH
    Help.
    My Genographic Haplogroup is R1b.
    When those results were uploaded to FTDNA the Haplogroup became R1b1.
    Why did it change and does it matter?
    Thanks,
    JWH
    Welcome, brother JWH, from a fellow R1b1!

    There was a thread that discussed this topic earlier this year here.

    Here is a post from it that may answer your question.

    Originally posted by Bill Hurst
    At the FTDNA conference in Houston in 2004, they handed out the 2005 Y-DNA phylogenetic chart which had added the M343 mutation as the defining mutation for R1b. That meant that P25 would define R1b1; P25 is what FTDNA was testing for in their SNP tests for R1b. Someone asked - it may have been me - whether we R1b's would be redefined as R1b1's. The answer was yes. So more than a year later we ALL are - not just you.
    There is a second thread that discusses this issue here, as well.

    I believe that your markers must indicate fairly strongly that you, like most of us males of Western European origin, are R1b1.

    That is a prediction, however, based on your STRs.

    Only a Deep SNP-R1b test will confirm your haplogroup, however.

    There is a chart here that may be of help to you.

    BTW, we have our own R1b Forum here at FTDNA.

    Please participate.
    Last edited by Stevo; 19 June 2006, 12:01 PM.

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      Thanks Stevo

      Thanks for the quick reply and directions to more information. Very helpful.
      JWH

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