Geno 2.0 Next Generation (ships Oct. 15, 2015)

[ajmr1a1]

I guess this was just announced and unfortunately product provides
very skimpy details.

"National Geographic Explorer-in-Residence Dr. Spencer Wells and team designed Geno 2.0 Next Generation based on the new technologies and insights that emerged since the launch of the Genographic Project ten years ago. Using a custom-built genotyping chip, we test nearly 750,000 DNA markers, many of which have been specifically selected to provide highly detailed ancestry-related information."

750K what?
STRs, SNPS
Breakdown of yDNA, autosomal and mtDNA?

I can't believe that kits are being sold without providing this information
before hand.

http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/ngs/browse/productDetail.jsp?productId=2003825&gsk&code=SR90002&keyword=geno+2.0+next+generation&OVMTC=Broad&site=&creative=64211884217&OVKEY=geno+2.0+next+generation&url_id=189158541&device=t&gclid=Cj0KEQjwza6sBRCMiaaPtY_c2tIBEiQAacj5I0rO_P5LZzihPGxY71-ynQTdIVkRxB7kOaQw7cI14RkaAqqm8P8HAQ

[lgmayka]

One major question is whether the new test will actually be run by FTDNA as the current one is.

[rdegnen]

those who have already tested?

Will those who already tested with the Geno 2.0 have their results updated or will they have to be retested using Geno 2.0 Next Generation?

[jsarnacki]

Bumping in case anyone knows the answer to the above question about previous testers. I have 2 Geno 2.0 kits, and am wondering if they will automatically be upgraded to the Next Generation results as well!

[Bartot]

I guess this was just announced and unfortunately product provides
very skimpy details.

"National Geographic Explorer-in-Residence Dr. Spencer Wells and team designed Geno 2.0 Next Generation based on the new technologies and insights that emerged since the launch of the Genographic Project ten years ago. Using a custom-built genotyping chip, we test nearly 750,000 DNA markers, many of which have been specifically selected to provide highly detailed ancestry-related information."

750K what?
STRs, SNPS
Breakdown of yDNA, autosomal and mtDNA?

I can't believe that kits are being sold without providing this information
before hand.

http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/n...4RkaAqqm8P8HAQ

original natgeno2 test had 150K snp's , the new one has 750K snp's.

they are doing the same as the old/current NAtgeno2 did.

Natgeno2 currently are the ONLY company that uses the current Ydna and Mtdna trees

[David Guetta]

Bumping in case anyone knows the answer to the above question about previous testers. I have 2 Geno 2.0 kits, and am wondering if they will automatically be upgraded to the Next Generation results as well!

It is an entirely new test, not a reanalysis of old results

[wombat]

If you have already taken Geno 2.0 do you have to check swab again or can they use a stored sample? Do they tend to offer any discounts at all if you have already tested (and only gotten results a few months ago)?

[daragon24]

From what I recall, when they went from Geno 1.0 to 2.0 all those who where participants got a free upgrade to 2.0. But who knows if they will upgrade us without any extra costs this time around. They are being pretty skimpy on the details right now.

[lgmayka]

From what I recall, when they went from Geno 1.0 to 2.0 all those who where participants got a free upgrade to 2.0.

No, that did not happen. I and several relatives took the Geno 1.0 test, which was essentially Y-DNA12. Geno did not offer any free or reduced-cost upgrade option.

You may instead be thinking of a bizarre situation in which Geno beta-tested its 2.0 product on a few FTDNA customer samples. Geno then released that data to those customers without any charge for the analysis.

[wombat]

No, that did not happen. I and several relatives took the Geno 1.0 test, which was essentially Y-DNA12. Geno did not offer any free or reduced-cost upgrade option.

You may instead be thinking of a bizarre situation in which Geno beta-tested its 2.0 product on a few FTDNA customer samples. Geno then released that data to those customers without any charge for the analysis.

Did you have to re-do the entire kit and swab mail-in too going from 1.0 to 2.0?

I thought I read that they kept a DNA sample unless you told them not to, but maybe that was just 23andme and FamilyTree. I can't seem to find anything about DNA samples being kept or not at all on the Geno page now.

Has anyone received any emails from them about it any way? I thought I saw a couple people somewhere else say they had received some sort of email about the new Next Gen test, but I certainly haven't received any emails at all.

[lgmayka]

Did you have to re-do the entire kit and swab mail-in too going from 1.0 to 2.0?

I would have had to do so, if I had actually ordered 2.0 for myself. (I did not.)

I thought I read that they kept a DNA sample unless you told them not to, but maybe that was just 23andme and FamilyTree.

If you transfer your Geno results and samples to an FTDNA account, FTDNA will retain them. But Geno will not.

Has anyone received any emails from them about it any way?

Yes, I did just the other day. It was really just the same advertisement as on their web site.

[daragon24]

They keep the sample for 4-5 years.
The thing is when you pay for the kit that is what your paying for. They will upgrade you if you still have a sample that is in good condition. If it's been awhile you will need to buy a new kit.

[Ann Turner]

A few more details here:

http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2015/08/12/what-is-geno-2-0-next-generation/

The author Miguel Vilar posted on the ISOGG Facebook thread that more information will be coming, "including Y and Mito SNP totals."

[1798]

If someone has already taken the FF test what will be the advantages of this new test if any?

[lgmayka]

A few more details here:

http://voices.nationalgeographic.com...xt-generation/

The two most important improvements:
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We are including thousands of new Y chromosome and mitochondrial DNA mutations, allowing for the highest resolution in maternal and paternal haplogroup (family clan) assignment, shy of genome or chromosomal sequencing.
...
Next Gen participants looking for genealogical matches can now easily transfer results to our laboratory partners at Family Tree DNA and search for relatives across their large database.
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I interpret this last point to refer to transferability into Family Finder.