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  • My Results, Reference Populations, and What I look Like.

    I was born in the Philippines. The most distant ancestors I know of are my great grandfather and great-great grandmother from Denmark, and my great grandmother from Spain.

    I was surprised that a majority of my % is from NE Asia. Even more surprised about the reference populations I came closest to. It also said my ancestors settled in Mongolia or China.

    I'd be curious to know what you all got. Attached is a pic of me. Nobody can ever guess where I'm from...

    Northeast Asian - 40%
    Southeast Asian - 26%
    Mediterranean - 12%
    Northern European - 11%
    Southwest Asian - 5%
    Oceanian - 4%
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    98%

    Regional Ancestry Matches:

    Tatar Russia:

    This reference population is based on samples collected from the Tatar people of Russia, a Turkic-speaking group that originated in the region of present-day Mongolia and settled on the Volga River in the 7th century. Their genetic results reflect their origin, with 16% Northeast Asian a major component. However, there has been substantial mixing with western Eurasian populations (including Russians) over the years, resulting in the 40% Northern European, 21% Southwest Asian, and 21% Mediterranean components more typical in Europe.

    AND

    Kinh Vietnam:

    This reference population is based on samples collected from the Kinh ethnic group living in Vietnam, the largest ethnic group in the country. The 57% Northeast Asian and 43% Southeast Asian percentages are representative of migrations in East Asia, with the northeast Asian component likely coming from the earliest settlers in eastern Siberia and northern China. The southeast Asian component reflects mixing with groups that originated further south.
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    I would have guessed Heaven!

    All kidding aside, dna testing is full of surprises.

    I was brought up a major Anglophile, "solid English roots", "God Save The Queen", and all that, only to find out that my ydna was mostly from Ulster Province, Northern Ireland, the site of some of the most bitter, implacable hatred of, and enmity toward, the English colonialists! (And not without good reason, let me quickly say...)

    The truth will set you free, they say.

    I love the surprises and the excitement of discovering what dna courses through my veins, and learning the people and cultures that resulted in me.

    Welcome to the adventure!

    William (I go by "Cris") Calhoun N112723

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    • #3
      :-) Hi Cris. I love it too! It's fascinating to say the least. Did you do your testing through here, or the Genographic Project?

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      • #4
        It means you have more asian ancestor than european. If 6 of 8 your great grandparents were asian than it's no surprise that you get more asian than european.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Parameswara View Post
          It means you have more asian ancestor than european. If 6 of 8 your great grandparents were asian than it's no surprise that you get more asian than european.
          The part that surprised me was more NE Asian, as opposed to SE Asian...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kattoo13 View Post
            The part that surprised me was more NE Asian, as opposed to SE Asian...
            Genographic Project admixture analysis is tend to Northeast Asian more than Southeast Asian. Not just you, but everyone from Southeast Asia will get high percentage of Northeast Asian. As far as I know, Indonesian Native (I don't know about Philippines, but I guess not much different) which is get 100% Southeast Asian in Family Finder MyOrigins, get about 48% Northeast Asian and 42% Southeast Asian in Geno2 analysis. So, I think they (Genographic Project) labelled some SNPs as Northeast Asian rather than Southeast Asian because they thought those SNPs developed in Northeast Asia before those people moved back to the South.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kattoo13 View Post
              The part that surprised me was more NE Asian, as opposed to SE Asian...
              I suspect that they really mean

              SE Asian => Neolithic East Asian; yDNA haplogroup O

              NE Asian => Mesolithic East Asian; yDNA haplogroups C, D, and N

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kattoo13 View Post
                Attached is a pic of me. Nobody can ever guess where I'm from...

                Northeast Asian - 40%
                Southeast Asian - 26%
                Mediterranean - 12%
                Northern European - 11%
                Southwest Asian - 5%
                Oceanian - 4%
                If you hadn't posted your results or told us where you were born I would have thought that you are Latin American. Since we are also basically a mix of European and Asian through our Native American ancestors we have some people that look like you.

                Originally posted by kattoo13 View Post
                The part that surprised me was more NE Asian, as opposed to SE Asian...
                The Japanese and Chinese get the highest amount of Northeast Asian according to the Geno 2.0 reference populations. https://genographic.nationalgeograph...e-populations/

                The full explanation of Northeast Asian and Southeast Asian is at https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/regions/

                Northeast Asian: This component is found at highest frequencies in the populations of northeast Asia—people from Japan, China and Mongolia in our reference populations. It is also found at lower frequencies in southeast Asia and India, where it likely arrived in the past 10,000 years with the expansion of rice farmers coming from further north. Interestingly, it is also found at a frequency of 5-10% in the Finns, likely introduced by the migrations of the Saami people from Siberia into Finland over the past 5,000 years.

                Southeast Asian: This component is found at highest frequencies in the populations of southeast Asia and India, particularly in the northeast Indian and Vietnamese populations in our reference set. It is also found at lower frequency in populations from Oceania, where it persists as a signal of the Austronesian migrations into the region beginning ~5,000 years ago—a migration that would eventually colonize Polynesia. Interestingly, it is also found in the population of Madagascar, brought there by the seafaring Austronesians around 2,000 years ago.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Armando View Post
                  If you hadn't posted your results or told us where you were born I would have thought that you are Latin American. Since we are also basically a mix of European and Asian through our Native American ancestors we have some people that look like you.
                  Yup...that's why I had posted that other thread about possibly having a percentage of NA. I can't tell you how many Native American people here (I live in New Mexico), think I am Native American. Especially at the last powwow I went to (pic attached). The Danish is from my dad's side, but he looks pretty asian in this pic.

                  I had read this interesting article that during the Spanish colonization of the Philippines, Spain brought 2 NA tribes to Luzon (area where my mom's, dad's family is from). The 2 tribes (Mexican) were the Aztecs and Yaqui Indians. They were said to equal the population of the Filipino locals.

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                  • #10
                    Oh...here is the other link to my pic at powwow.
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                    • #11
                      Have you considered the possibility that one of your parents or grandparents was adopted?

                      W. (Mr.)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dna View Post
                        Have you considered the possibility that one of your parents or grandparents was adopted?

                        W. (Mr.)
                        Hmm...no. I always just chalked it up to being a mutt. If I hadn't told you my DNA results, where would you have guessed I was from?

                        So, here are more pics. 1st one is my dad's mom. 2nd one is of her dad from Denmark and his wife from the Philippines. Last one is of my great grandfather's (paternal) mom from Denmark. Can't tell what they are mixed with...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kattoo13 View Post
                          Yup...that's why I had posted that other thread about possibly having a percentage of NA. I can't tell you how many Native American people here (I live in New Mexico), think I am Native American. Especially at the last powwow I went to (pic attached). The Danish is from my dad's side, but he looks pretty asian in this pic.
                          Looks can be deceiving but the DNA doesn't lie. Native American is actually a component of Geno 2.0 and since you don't have Native American at Geno 2.0 you don't have Native American in the past 7 generations. You shouldn't get more than 2% Native American at Gedmatch once you get your Family Finder results and upload them there. The look is due to coincidence from the mix of ancestors that you have and the mix that Native Americans have.


                          Originally posted by kattoo13 View Post
                          I had read this interesting article that during the Spanish colonization of the Philippines, Spain brought 2 NA tribes to Luzon (area where my mom's, dad's family is from). The 2 tribes (Mexican) were the Aztecs and Yaqui Indians. They were said to equal the population of the Filipino locals.
                          Do you have a link to the article? I was aware that Natives from Mexico assisted the Spanish but I thought it was Tlaxcaltecas (Tlaxcalans) and not the Aztecs that assisted the Spanish in the colonization of the Philippines. The Tlaxcaltecas, enemies of the Aztecs, were the main tribe that assisted the Spanish in the conquest of Mexico.


                          Originally posted by kattoo13 View Post
                          Oh...here is the other link to my pic at powwow.
                          The glasses hide your father's eyes but he looks very European to me in that pic. You look more Asian in that pic but could still pass for Latin American.

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                          • #14
                            Armando,

                            Screenshot of the article is attached..
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kattoo13 View Post
                              Armando,

                              Screenshot of the article is attached..
                              Thanks. It says "The American Indians that were brought here.....most of them are of Nahuatl (Aztec) or Yaqui descent or are Mexican mestizos themselves."

                              I wonder if the author understands that Tlaxcalans also spoke Nahuatl.

                              Page 24 of Mexico in World History By William H. Beezley states "These expeditions often combined Spaniards with their Tlaxcalan allies, so that the people from what today is Mexico's smallest state left a cultural impact in northern Mexico, the southwestern United States, and the Phillipines - including Tlaxcalan loanwords in local languages"

                              https://goo.gl/X730jY

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