Humans in England 700,000 yrs

[GvdM]

Geesh...why are you nitpicking? Crests are what I call the emblem associated with a certain person/family. In my family tree there are many of them. Whatever you call them. I call them crests. I have a 'charm' for a bracelet, from the National Society Magna Charta Dames, with a lion rampant on it. That is from my maternal line.

I'm not nitpicking. Just offering information to the correct terms. "Family Crest" is a term that is used by the Companies that make their money ripping people off by offering to sell them their "Family Crest". Which is something that does not exist.

I was simply giving the correct definitions. I like to know if I am calling something by an incorrect name and thought most people would also like to use correct terms.

Sorry, but no offense was intended.

[M.O'Connor]

Being related genetically and having the same surname is enough for me to hold high the family arms. If anybody has a problem with it... they can call me.

[GvdM]

Being related genetically and having the same surname is enough for me to hold high the family arms. If anybody has a problem with it... they can call me.

Nobody in this thread said anything about your arms. What was discussed is a "Crest" is what sits on top of the helm, a crest is not the arms. If it is the point that arms belong to the whole family whether male, female, son of the mother and the like it is not true. Arms follow only direct male bloodline. You can believe otherwise if you want. Everybody has the right to be wrong about things from time to time.

[DMac]

Being related genetically and having the same surname is enough for me to hold high the family arms. If anybody has a problem with it... they can call me.

I'll call you!!! I've got 3 kings, ace high.

[M.O'Connor]

All I got is 2 pairs of 2's..

[M.O'Connor]

Geesh...why are you nitpicking? Crests are what I call the emblem associated with a certain person/family. In my family tree there are many of them. Whatever you call them. I call them crests. I have a 'charm' for a bracelet, from the National Society Magna Charta Dames, with a lion rampant on it. That is from my maternal line.

Back to the point.....I believe there were lions in England.

Lions, and or other large cats were in England during ancient times.

http://www.localhistories.org/prehistengland.html

Ancient Lion-type animals.

http://www.messybeast.com/cat-prehistory.htm

[rainbow]

Lions, and or other large cats were in England during ancient times.

http://www.localhistories.org/prehistengland.html

Ancient Lion-type animals.
http://www.messybeast.com/cat-prehistory.htm

Thank you so much.

[TEB]

Nobody in this thread said anything about your arms. What was discussed is a "Crest" is what sits on top of the helm, a crest is not the arms. If it is the point that arms belong to the whole family whether male, female, son of the mother and the like it is not true. Arms follow only direct male bloodline. You can believe otherwise if you want. Everybody has the right to be wrong about things from time to time.

Thanks for the info GvdM.
I know I come from peasant stock so I know helms and coat of arms and all that does not apply to my family. Still interesting though.

[GvdM]

Thanks for the info GvdM.
I know I come from peasant stock so I know helms and coat of arms and all that does not apply to my family. Still interesting though.

TEB,

If you are in the US there is nothing stopping you from assuming arms for your family. You can create a coat of arms for your children to inherit. There are no US laws preventing this. The only thing is you want them to be unique and not arms of another line.

visit http://www.heraldrysociety.us if you want to learn more.

[rsychev]

How can they be sure the tools were used by humans? I recently saw on TV an interesting documetary that showed how capuchin monkeys used rocks to crack open some seed.

Yes, I saw film about capuchin monkeys on the Russian TV too. It is very interesting film.

[rsychev]

What do you think about Stephen Oppenheimer book "Out of Eden. The peopling of the world"? Anybody read it? It's just about human migration.

[mas3rd]

Pre-sapiens hominids in England

Homo heidelbergensis was probably the species of hominid associated with the 700,000 BP artifacts.

MAS