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    When I got my Geno2 results, on myFTDNA snp tree,appeared a long list of snp tests taken.
    I barely understand it but at the bottom, I found my V88,(which I thought would be the last snp listed) followed by and concluded with numbers I dont understand..
    V88+, V9+, YSC0000067+, YSC0000075+, YSC0000176+, YSC0000179+, YSC0000182+, YSC0000186+, YSC0000201+, YSC0000205+, YSC0000207+, YSC0000224+, YSC0000227+, YSC0000230+, YSC0000232+, YSC0000233+, YSC0000251+, YSC0000270+, YSC0000279+, YSC0000288+, M269-

    Could someone tell me, what V9+ means to me?
    What are all the YSC numbers, that I tested possessive for?

    I'd Appreciate any advice offered,
    Brian

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    SNPs listed in alphabetical order, not chronological order

    It is likely your current terminal SNP (per the Geno 2.0) is V88, and most (if not all) of the positive SNPs listed in your profile are above V88.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jdna View Post
      When I got my Geno2 results, on myFTDNA snp tree,appeared a long list of snp tests taken.
      I barely understand it but at the bottom, I found my V88,(which I thought would be the last snp listed) followed by and concluded with numbers I dont understand..
      V88+, V9+, YSC0000067+, YSC0000075+, YSC0000176+, YSC0000179+, YSC0000182+, YSC0000186+, YSC0000201+, YSC0000205+, YSC0000207+, YSC0000224+, YSC0000227+, YSC0000230+, YSC0000232+, YSC0000233+, YSC0000251+, YSC0000270+, YSC0000279+, YSC0000288+, M269-

      Could someone tell me, what V9+ means to me?
      What are all the YSC numbers, that I tested possessive for?

      I'd Appreciate any advice offered,
      Brian
      Hey Brian,
      The new Morley Experimental Y-SNP Phylogenies tree was just released today. You are on page 44, line 2093. Congratulations!
      You seem to be the only one testing PF5404+ so far. Hard to say if that is important yet.
      Ftdna will only list your Geno 2.0 positive SNPs in alphabetical order. Most of the SNPs listed just confirm that you are a human. SNPs tested by Sanger sequencing in the FTDNA labs are listed no matter what the results.
      Have fun.

      Chris Morley (2014). An experimental computer-generated Y-chromosomal phylogeny, leveraging public Geno 2.0 results and the current ISOGG tree, version: 7 February 2014, [Date of access: 7 February 2014].

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      • #4
        Thanks for the replies,
        Wow, the only one listed,
        Could you tell me, does that mean my DNA is a new subgroup of V88?
        Is my V88 subgroup, unique, only to my family?
        (understanding not everybody in the world has been tested)
        Is this the end of my testing, nothing further to break down to?

        Also, might seem like a silly question but, what does, "PF5404" refer to?
        Continued appreciation,
        Brian
        Last edited by Jdna; 7th February 2014, 06:38 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jdna View Post
          Thanks for the replies,
          Wow, the only one listed,
          Could you tell me, does that mean my DNA is a new subgroup of V88?
          Is my V88 subgroup, unique, only to my family?
          (understanding not everybody in the world has been tested)
          Is this the end of my testing, nothing further to break down to?

          Also, might seem like a silly question but, what does, "PF5404" refer to?
          Continued appreciation,
          Brian
          Nope, you're not done. More SNPs for your R1b1c (V88+) Cluster C2 cluster may be discovered with Big Y testing.
          I doubt that PF5404 is unique to you since they had to discover that SNP first on somebody else. Also, we do not know the Geno 2.0 results from people not registered with FTDNA. PF5404 could turn out to be a dud too. If you can get some of your close matches to test, that may help to sort things out.

          SNP Naming
          http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/answers.aspx?id=26#929
          PF - Dipartimento di Zoologia e Genetica Evoluzionistica, Università di Sassari, Italy

          ISOGG Wiki is a great learning resourse.
          http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Wiki_Welcome_Page

          ISOGG SNP Index
          http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_YDNA_SNP_Index.html
          PF5404 and other "research" SNPs can be found in the ISOGG SNP Compendium Spreadsheet.

          ISOGG Y-DNA Haplogroup R and its Subclades - 2014
          http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpR.html

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          • #6
            Would going from my Y67 to Y111 test help or should I think about individual Snp's testing?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jdna View Post
              Would going from my Y67 to Y111 test help or should I think about individual Snp's testing?
              Upgrading to the 111 STR level should be helpful for your subclade. It will be more helpful when more people in the R1b-V88 subclade test to that level. Sometimes FTDNA has a sale, hint.
              I'm not sure where the phylogeny is going with R1b-V88. The R1b1(xP297) DNA Project has a lot of negative results for SNPs below V88. V69 is associated with Lake Chad and Cameroon and an east to west migration from the middle east.
              I would contact the project managers for SNP advise. Ofcourse, they may be awaiting the new haplotree too.

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