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    I just received results from Ntl. Geographic on my mtDNA test and it listed me as R. How can I find out if I'm R1a or R1b? I'm asian by ethnicity, so think its fascinating I didn't type as a more east asian haplogroup.
    Second, I've been reading that there is R9, R11, and R25 related to e./s. and nw. asian gene research, so are these also part of R subclades or have they been renamed and are actually subclades of another haplotype?

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    Need Help Hgroup R

    East Asian F is thought to be descended from R lineage.

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    • #3
      Babae,

      You are confusing mtDNA and NRY-DNA. R1a and R1b are Y DNA (male) lineages. They have nothing to do with mtDNA R, which does have East Asian branches including F, as fatherR has stated.

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      • #4
        F/U to Need Help Hgroup R

        Ah, I see. Thanks. So I guess there's mtDNA haplogroups and Y-DNA haplogroups. Are there subclades of mtDNA R? I also have spanish blood from my great grandfather to the 5th power, from when the philippines was part of spain.

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        • #5
          Yes, there are many subclades of the mtDNA haplogroups. There is a frequent poster on this site who goes by "vraatyah" who has an extensive database of mtDNA and if you post your mutations he may be able to help you discover to which subclade you belong. Some subclades have not been defined well. Most of the work seems to have been on European mtDNA, and on the Asian groups that are related to the ancestors of Native Americans. If you aren't in one of those categories it may be a while before you get the info you want. As for your gggggrandfather, unless you have a direct male to male to male descendant such as a brother or cousin to test, you will not learn anything about him from this test. Y is strictly passed from male to male, and mtDNA from female to female (males inherit their mother's mtDNA but do not pass it to their offspring). There are good references on all this here in the FAQ and in the FTDNA library.

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          • #6
            Babae, my husband comes from the Phillipines also, is mtDNA Haplogroup R, with the following:

            140c
            183c
            189c
            260T
            266A
            343G
            519c

            So far, he has no HVR-1 matches, so has not tested HVR-2

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Paula
              Babae, my husband comes from the Phillipines also, is mtDNA Haplogroup R, with the following:

              140c
              183c
              189c
              260T
              266A
              343G
              519c

              So far, he has no HVR-1 matches, so has not tested HVR-2
              that's B5a, I'd say B5a*. There are several close matches for this type in Philippines and Hong Kong.
              Last edited by vraatyah; 2 December 2005, 04:37 PM.

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              • #8
                Any comments on my mtdna, I haven't refined to subclade.

                Haplo H

                1st segment.......... 16145A, 16519C

                2nd segment..........152C, 263G, 309.1C, 309.2C, 315.1C

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                • #9
                  Still confused

                  vraatyah, I'm confused by your answer. What is B5a or B5a*, and how do they relate to haplogroup R?

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