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    I successfully downloaded my Geno 2.0 data and have several questions.

    1. Can it be uploaded to gedmatch? If so, does it replace my existing FTDNA file?

    2. The Geno 2.0 report placed me in R-z49. However I see entries in my cvs files that look like values for snps under that. How do I find my real terminal snp?

    3. Is there anything else I can do with the data while I'm waiting for FTDNA to fix the upload function? I understand that Dr. McDonald doesn't see any particular value to sending it to him for analysis.

    Thanks,

    Jim

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    Where is the link to download your data? I do not see it.

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    • #3
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      On Your Story home page, go to Profile, then Expert Options.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jbarry6899 View Post
        I successfully downloaded my Geno 2.0 data and have several questions.

        1. Can it be uploaded to gedmatch? If so, does it replace my existing FTDNA file?
        GEDmatch will probably not be accepting Geno 2.0 data in the forseeable future. I am of the opinion that there are too few SNPs in common with the existing database.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jbarry6899 View Post
          On Your Story home page, go to Profile, then Expert Options.
          Nothing there except the transfer option to FTDNA

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            The download link was on my page, then disappeared yesterday, and reappeared today. Suggest you keep checking.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jbarry6899 View Post
              The download link was on my page, then disappeared yesterday, and reappeared today. Suggest you keep checking.
              Thanks, that is somewhat comforting.

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              • #8
                Still not able to get my data - I would like to know what my terminal SNPs are for the Y and mtDNA. Does anyone have the rs numbers or whatever numbers for Y - Z138 and mt - T10463C and T13768C - I would to read a little about these. Where should I go?

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                • #9
                  After you log in you get a "Your Story" page and it tells you your terminal SNPs.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JTR View Post
                    Nothing there except the transfer option to FTDNA
                    That is not true at all. There are several things you can do with your dna.

                    Just have a look at that article: http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.co...resources.html

                    And Dr McDonalds is interested in analysing Geno results, even if he is only able to analyse the SNP common to the FTDNA/23andme. And if you want to send him your file, you should do it quickly, because he is just about to take long vacations.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JOlson View Post
                      GEDmatch will probably not be accepting Geno 2.0 data in the forseeable future. I am of the opinion that there are too few SNPs in common with the existing database.
                      The problem for both Gedmatch and Dr McDonald is not so much the SNPs themselves but that the documentation for the new SNPs is not available yet. When all the papers have been published about them, I am sure they will update their tools accordingly...

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                      • #12
                        By the way, jbarry, hasn't richard rocca contacted you ? He is the one you should ask about your terminal Y-SNP...

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Itai View Post
                          By the way, jbarry, hasn't richard rocca contacted you ? He is the one you should ask about your terminal Y-SNP...
                          He has not. I don't know how to read the individual entries, and don't know what the specific values are the mark/don't mark a mutation, so it would be very helpful to know.

                          I'm trying to figure out whether to spend money for a la carte snp testing, specifically Z142 and L562.

                          Jim

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Itai View Post
                            That is not true at all. There are several things you can do with your dna.

                            Just have a look at that article: http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.co...resources.html

                            And Dr McDonalds is interested in analysing Geno results, even if he is only able to analyse the SNP common to the FTDNA/23andme. And if you want to send him your file, you should do it quickly, because he is just about to take long vacations.
                            No! I still am not able to get my Raw Data - I know the terminal SNPs but I want to read-up on those - any suggestions?

                            I wish they would let me see my data. An interesting thing was that when I did my paternal story it had me listed as I1c but in the 2012 tree there is no C On the front page I am I1a terminating at Z138. WANT MY DATA!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jbarry6899 View Post
                              He has not. I don't know how to read the individual entries, and don't know what the specific values are the mark/don't mark a mutation, so it would be very helpful to know.

                              I'm trying to figure out whether to spend money for a la carte snp testing, specifically Z142 and L562.

                              Jim
                              Ok, let me try to explain a bit. Once you put your file in columns, you got 5 columns. The first is your identification, the second is the name of the Y-SNP, the third is the chromosome and will be Y for Y-DNA and the last two columns will be letters A, C, G or T.

                              These last two colums is the value of the base of this SNP. Most of the time they will be identical. In some cases they will be different, and only one of the values will be pertinent. In very very few cases you'll get a - or a 0: these are really no-calls, SNP that didn't work.

                              Now, how do you know if the SNP is positive or negative ? You can't. Not with only your file. The only way to know that is to compare several files together which makes apparent what the Y-SNPs are.

                              I guess this is not very helpful but it will help you understand how the raw file works.

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