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  • Stevo
    started a topic Richard III's DNA Testing Results

    Richard III's DNA Testing Results

    Identification of the remains of King Richard III

    Richard III belonged to y haplogroup G2, but some living men who were believed to be in the same paternal line do not. Four of them are R1b-U152 and one is I-M170. Apparently there were NPE's somewhere along the line.

    Richard III's DNA throws up infidelity surprise
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  • PDHOTLEN
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    My former claim to a line leading back to King John and the Plantagenets was along a maternal line. And it was weak at a few points. It was based on a connection to the Hunt family. Now I seriously doubt my connection (direct maternal line). It superficially looks more like a female indentured servant from Ireland went to Virginia in the 1600s. Ha ha!

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  • 1798
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    Originally posted by Germanica View Post
    It's hardly surprising - I'm sure we all have a non-paternity event somewhere in our ancestry, I don't see why the royal family would be any different.
    I think there is lesson in this for everyone who takes a dna test. Those who think that they are connected to kings and royalty, Vikings,Normans,Celts etc.could be in for a surprise.

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  • Germanica
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    It's hardly surprising - I'm sure we all have a non-paternity event somewhere in our ancestry, I don't see why the royal family would be any different.

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  • andreastill.gen
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    Thanks for the info!

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  • dna
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    In Supplementary information

    Originally posted by andreastill.gen View Post
    In all the information I read there was no mention of the mtDNA haplogroup other than it was rare. Has anyone found information on this?
    In addition to J1c2c3 information provided by Armando, on page 11 in http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2014/14...mms6631-s1.pdf there is a Supplementary Table 6: Mitochondrial DNA type of ML1, ML2 and Skeleton 1. with the detailed results.

    W.
    Last edited by dna; 3rd December 2014, 11:53 AM.

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  • Armando
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    Originally posted by andreastill.gen View Post
    In all the information I read there was no mention of the mtDNA haplogroup other than it was rare. Has anyone found information on this?
    The supplementary information on page 45 of the PDF states that it is J1c2c3.

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  • andreastill.gen
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    In all the information I read there was no mention of the mtDNA haplogroup other than it was rare. Has anyone found information on this?

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  • Sarmat
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    Originally posted by Stevo View Post
    If you check the supplementary information in the report, you will find that Richard III was a carrier of the red hair variant rs1805007, known as Arg151Cys or R151C. T there is the risk allele, and Richard III had a CT at Arg151Cys. Since red hair is a recessive trait, you need TT to actually have red hair.
    OMG. Richard III must be a Tocharian!


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  • Stevo
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    If you check the supplementary information in the report, you will find that Richard III was a carrier of the red hair variant rs1805007, known as Arg151Cys or R151C. T there is the risk allele, and Richard III had a CT at Arg151Cys. Since red hair is a recessive trait, you need TT to actually have red hair.

    I am a carrier of the red hair variant Arg160Tryp (rs1805008). The risk allele there is also T. One of my dad's older sisters, my Aunt Lois, had red hair, and my dad carries the same variant I have, so he may have passed it on to me.

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  • Stevo
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    It was rumored during his own lifetime that John of Gaunt was not really the son of Edward III, so it is still possible that the NPE occurred there and those R1b-U152 guys really are descended from John of Gaunt.

    Y-dna tests on Edward III and John of Gaunt are needed to really seal the deal.

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  • suttonwho
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    Kinda puts a damper on things for all the 'royalty chaser' genealogists. Lol.

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  • 1798
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    Some people like to claim that they are related to the Royal family and the Royal family are not related to each other.This is the funniest story of the year.LOL

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  • Stevo
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    Excellent video. Thanks.

    Fascinating story. Most people think of Shakespeare's Richard III when they think of Richard III, but I think of Stevenson's The Black Arrow, one of my favorites.

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  • Armando
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    Originally posted by Armando View Post
    Here is a video that Jean Manco recommended. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYY-usw9K_U
    It was Richard Rocca and not Jean Manco that had recommended that.

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