Request Shut Down of Forum until Spam is Effectively Blocked

[Arch Yeomans]

You can see through the writing to the agendas

I actually unsubscribed to DNA-Forums( or tried to) after the founder jumped into a forum here unannounced and with comments that were uncalled for..
I felt that he was quite rude and not really well informed..

"Pretty is as pretty does" in terms of forums..
The "unsubscribe" button does not work so well at DNA Forums..

Not accusing anybody directly, but it's usually obvious when there's agenda to have people migrate from one forum to another. Maybe it's just me, but I prefer an honest up front reason why a person wants me to join another forum in place of the one I primarily visit.

[GvdM]

Not accusing anybody directly, but it's usually obvious when there's agenda to have people migrate from one forum to another. Maybe it's just me, but I prefer an honest up front reason why a person wants me to join another forum in place of the one I primarily visit.

This has nothing to do with who is a member of what forum, or both. This has to do with personal attacks on an individual. Things that have been said are slanderous, but luckily most know them to be untrue. I have never said anyone should leave a forum and join another so I do not know where that came from. I am a member of both and post in both. I could care less who joins what. That is none of my business.

[Stevo]

Not accusing anybody directly, but it's usually obvious when there's agenda to have people migrate from one forum to another. Maybe it's just me, but I prefer an honest up front reason why a person wants me to join another forum in place of the one I primarily visit.

Arch,

An "agenda"?

I invited you over to the other forum because I saw you were R1b1c6 and thought you might enjoy it.

That's the "agenda."

Stay here if it suits you better.

Sheesh!

I post at several venues and it doesn't trouble me a bit.

[Arch Yeomans]

Arch,

An "agenda"?

I invited you over to the other forum because I saw you were R1b1c6 and thought you might enjoy it.

That's the "agenda."

Stay here if it suits you better.

Sheesh!

LOL. No, there's no agenda. To be quite honest with you, I was thinking about somebody else. But now that you have mentioned it... I found the forums you invited me to quite lacking and haven't gone back since. Not attacking you, just being honest. I probably haven't given it a fair chance. With that said. I'm just here because it's easier than jumping all over the place.

[Stevo]

LOL. No, there's no agenda. To be quite honest with you, I was thinking about somebody else. But now that you have mentioned it... I found the forums you invited me to quite lacking and haven't gone back since. Not attacking you, just being honest. I probably haven't given it a fair chance. With that said. I'm just here because it's easier than jumping all over the place.

No problem.

To each his own. I prefer the forum you characterized as "lacking" because it has many features this forum does not have, like avatars, the ability to post polls, separate y and mtDNA haplogroup subforums, etc. It is also independent of any one particular dna testing company and has separate subforums dedicated to several different companies. Dr. David Faux of Ethonancestry is a member and regular contributor and often answers questions about that company's offerings, but dna-forums.org is not beholden to him in any way.

I also post on the Rootsweb DNA List.

But post where you want.

I like FTDNA and have received good service from it. I've been posting here at the FTDNA Forum awhile and will continue to post here from time to time.

But I don't see why one must be tied to a single forum.

[Jim Denning]

No problem.
But I don't see why one must be tied to a single forum.

well if you dont care if anyone sees your posts thats ok

this is a section on sucess stories which is what should be posted here

whats your sucess story?

[Stevo]

well if you dont care if anyone sees your posts thats ok

this is a section on sucess stories which is what should be posted here

whats your sucess story?

Nevermind.

[MMaddi]

well if you dont care if anyone sees your posts thats ok

this is a section on sucess stories which is what should be posted here

whats your sucess story?

Jim,

Go back to the first page of this thread and see who started a thread that doesn't belong in the "success stories" section. It wasn't Stevo.

But that's neither here nor there. There's 3 pages of postings in this thread by numerous individuals and not one mention of any success story.

For the record, I post both here (for over a year now) and at dna-forums (since August). I also post occasionally at the Genealogy-DNA list on Rootsweb.

Mike Maddi

[MMaddi]

This I guess: Out of the blue.. I felt invaded and I felt it was uncalled for..
and I ran an Addictions program( County IDRC) in NJ for 10+ years so that is what it felt like..the proverbial elephant in the living room... hence my comment


Your Quote:

Californian Caucasian, Michigan Caucasian??????

"How can you waist your money on this? Maybe in the future they will figure out what the hell they are talking about but right now this is utter nonsense........"
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Perhaps it was undiplomatic of George to put it that way, but he was just expressing his opinion, which I share. I haven't taken a poll, but I believe that many of the more knowledgeable people involved in genetic genealogy have that opinion too. I base that on some comments I've seen on the Genealogy-DNA list.

It's your money and you're free to spend it however you want to. If I had an unlimited budget for DNA testing, I would probably try out autosomal testing, just out of curiousity to see what it would say about the ethnicities among my ancestors. I don't have an unlimited budget, so I concentrate my spending on tests that will tell me with some reasonable probability things I want to know.

But two people, including yourself, responding that George must be drunk, is not just undiplomatic. It's nasty. Perhaps you can see that now that it's been pointed out by someone other than George.

Mike Maddi

P.S. In case you're wondering, I had 1 beer last night with dinner, no alcohol since then. I believe I'm perfectly sober. (Sorry, couldn't resist. LOL)

Mike

[NormanGalway]

being intoxicated is a far more charitable explanation than the alternative... which is that GVDM behaves in such an obnoxious way when sober.

Anybody who doubts how inappropriate and childish his behavior was need only review the thread in question. Frankly, his insults got to be too much and targeted as they were at a very kind lady - a social worker - I simply told him off and he took the clue and vanished. Thankfully.

Anybody who thinks autosomal DNA is a crock is free to do so, this being a free country - but flaming those who do is not a good advertisement for the alternative board that you keep promoting. It's almost comical, were it not so sad, to think that by insulting people who "waste" their money on such "nonsense," that they will patronize your forum. The sudden appearance of Stevo and GVDM in a thread of a subject which they find ridiculous is more than a little suspicious.

I for one am quite sick of seeing advertisements for your rival board and like others here would like you to stop spamming these boards with nonsense about them.

Enough already.

[haplogroupc]

It's your money and you're free to spend it however you want to. If I had an unlimited budget for DNA testing, I would probably try out autosomal testing, just out of curiousity to see what it would say about the ethnicities among my ancestors. I don't have an unlimited budget, so I concentrate my spending on tests that will tell me with some reasonable probability things I want to know.

Alot of the conversations on the autosomal threads are related to the free databases. You can order the markers once and then try them out on several databases that criminologists have put together. The databases are usually samples from people who have been arrested. Who knows, you might find a long lost relative that way. ha ha.

[haplogroupc]

Who knows, you might find a long lost relative that way. ha ha.

As for me, one of the databases matches me up with quite a bit of Moroccan Arab. Hmmm.

[GvdM]

I for one am quite sick of seeing advertisements for your rival board and like others here would like you to stop spamming these boards with nonsense about them.

Enough already.

Oh Please......... I have never posted here for anyone to join DNA Forums. There has been no spam from that site. Someone from here complained to Leah and Max saying we were spamming here. They looked into it and wrote me saying there was no problem with spam or advertising from us. As I asked them, show me one spam post from me...... you won't be able to because it never happened.

[Unknown St.]

Just my two cents...

I guess I should start with my SUCCESS story... If anything, I'm probably the poster child for autosomal testing. I don't know my birth parents. I was adopted. Joined the National Genographic project, and eventially got my 67 markers tested, Deep SNP, and currently EA's S21. I recieved matches with several Sinclairs (exact matches as well as 1 and 2 off). So, without a paper trail, I'm about 95% sure my birth-father was a Sinclair. This next year I'll spring for my MtDNA. I think it's pretty clear why I'm not holding my breath on autosomal testing. It's all been said before, and said better than I could ever say. And now for my rant...


"Anybody who doubts how inappropriate and childish his behavior was need only review the thread in question. Frankly, his insults got to be too much and targeted as they were at a very kind lady - a social worker "

I read through the thread in question and all I saw was his doubt in the validity of autosomal testing. "His insults got to be too much?" What insults?
"And targeted as they were at a very kind lady - a social worker?" If he was insulting, who cares if she's a social worker? Are you sucking up to someone here?


"How can you waist your money on this? Maybe in the future they will figure out what the hell they are talking about but right now this is utter nonsense........"

Well, sounds like an opinion to me. By the way, that was also the only "insult" there. Perhaps straight forward, but insulting? Hardly. In fact, he also asked for any "reliable application of Autosomal DNA to genealogy." Didn't seem like you, or anyone else for that matter, answered him.


"being intoxicated is a far more charitable explanation than the alternative... which is that GVDM behaves in such an obnoxious way when sober."

Sounds like you were kind of insulting.... Hmmmm. I hope he's not a social worker.


"This I guess: Out of the blue.. I felt invaded and I felt it was uncalled for..
and I ran an Addictions program( County IDRC) in NJ for 10+ years so that is what it felt like..the proverbial elephant in the living room... hence my comment"

Invaded? Sounds a little too dramatic to me. This wasn't a "Law and Order" episode. Someone questioning why you bought a product is uncalled for? Why? Sounds like a thread involving a product should include the pro's and con's of that product. Common sense?


"I for one am quite sick of seeing advertisements for your rival board and like others here would like you to stop spamming these boards with nonsense about them."

Advertising? Rival board? To each their own. I'm a member of both boards and don't see it as a "rival board." In fact both boards compliment each other. And if anything, it's free advertising for FTDNA and other companies on the other board.



The only thing missing here is some plain old common sense. Some people need to drop their security blankets and open up to different ideas and opinions. Don't take everything so seriously/literally... Ahhhh, that felt good.

[KerryODair]

I guess I should start with my SUCCESS story... If anything, I'm probably the poster child for autosomal testing. I don't know my birth parents. I was adopted. Joined the National Genographic project, and eventially got my 67 markers tested, Deep SNP, and currently EA's S21. I recieved matches with several Sinclairs (exact matches as well as 1 and 2 off). So, without a paper trail, I'm about 95% sure my birth-father was a Sinclair. This next year I'll spring for my MtDNA. I think it's pretty clear why I'm not holding my breath on autosomal testing. It's all been said before, and said better than I could ever say. And now for my rant...


"Anybody who doubts how inappropriate and childish his behavior was need only review the thread in question. Frankly, his insults got to be too much and targeted as they were at a very kind lady - a social worker "

I read through the thread in question and all I saw was his doubt in the validity of autosomal testing. "His insults got to be too much?" What insults?
"And targeted as they were at a very kind lady - a social worker?" If he was insulting, who cares if she's a social worker? Are you sucking up to someone here?


"How can you waist your money on this? Maybe in the future they will figure out what the hell they are talking about but right now this is utter nonsense........"

Well, sounds like an opinion to me. By the way, that was also the only "insult" there. Perhaps straight forward, but insulting? Hardly. In fact, he also asked for any "reliable application of Autosomal DNA to genealogy." Didn't seem like you, or anyone else for that matter, answered him.


"being intoxicated is a far more charitable explanation than the alternative... which is that GVDM behaves in such an obnoxious way when sober."

Sounds like you were kind of insulting.... Hmmmm. I hope he's not a social worker.


"This I guess: Out of the blue.. I felt invaded and I felt it was uncalled for..
and I ran an Addictions program( County IDRC) in NJ for 10+ years so that is what it felt like..the proverbial elephant in the living room... hence my comment"

Invaded? Sounds a little too dramatic to me. This wasn't a "Law and Order" episode. Someone questioning why you bought a product is uncalled for? Why? Sounds like a thread involving a product should include the pro's and con's of that product. Common sense?


"I for one am quite sick of seeing advertisements for your rival board and like others here would like you to stop spamming these boards with nonsense about them."

Advertising? Rival board? To each their own. I'm a member of both boards and don't see it as a "rival board." In fact both boards compliment each other. And if anything, it's free advertising for FTDNA and other companies on the other board.



The only thing missing here is some plain old common sense. Some people need to drop their security blankets and open up to different ideas and opinions. Don't take everything so seriously/literally... Ahhhh, that felt good.

Very well spoken, I agree whole heartedly.