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  • #61
    Originally posted by Geneadict View Post
    Try reading them again with the "blinders" off. I make both complimentary and critical comments in these threads and others. I have no affiliation, other than as a customer who has spent allot of money with all the vendors mentioned, and offer more objective opinions than anyone taking the time to express them.
    Actually, Geneadict, am not sure what your mission is here. Have you contacted Bennet Greenspan with your concerns or not?

    I am wondering, and this is my own "analysis" and I may be totally off base, but could it be that you are worried that 23 and Me will no longer support all the tests you paid for there so you want to make sure 23 and Me stays afloat? Is that what all this is about?

    Linda

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Peacock100 View Post
      f I could not afford to test at both places, I would chose FTDNA.
      You seem to be missing one of the primary points. With $50 23andMe upload option, it will cost less to test with them and do the upload than it will to buy FF from FTDNA.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Mudgeeclarke View Post
        Buyers rarely get the price they want, and sellers rarely get the price they want. The middle ground is called 'doing business'. Take it or leave it.

        With this thread, my Low Interest Warning Light is Flashing.
        Precisely, Mudgee

        And even though it might seem I am an FTDNA "agent", I am not. FTDNA has to do their business, as the other competitors have to do. The best businesses survive based on customer satisfaction. There are often quirks here at FTDNA as to IT issues and so on but my experience is that FTDNA does have people one can contact with an issue and they do respond. My experience is that FTDNA does have the customer in focus. One thing that happens here sometimes is that customers do NOT use the contact function, but vent on the boards. Maybe customers are not used to getting a decent response from a company, but my experience at FTDNA is that one does, and yes, sometimes the reply from an FTDNA co-worker is not useful. But at FTDNA, one can, in that case or even in the same instance (i.e. cc the CEO), also go up to the CEO who will respond to one and it does not take days or weeks for a response.

        Linda

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Geneadict View Post
          You seem to be missing one of the primary points. With $50 23andMe upload option, it will cost less to test with them and do the upload than it will to buy FF from FTDNA.
          No, it would not cost less. At 23 and Me it costs 99 dollars + (9 dollars x 12 months minimum subscription) = 207 dollars. If one wants to upload to FTDNA there would be an additional 50 dollars cost, so 257 dollars for an autosomal test doing it that way, where one uploads to FTDNA. Current sale at FTDNA costs 199 dollars - total and final cost. I am talking about autosomal testing only and not tests that include Y- or Mt DNA - if you read my post.


          Linda

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Peacock100 View Post
            Actually, Geneadict, am not sure what your mission is here. Have you contacted Bennet Greenspan with your concerns or not?

            I am wondering, and this is my own "analysis" and I may be totally off base, but could it be that you are worried that 23 and Me will no longer support all the tests you paid for there so you want to make sure 23 and Me stays afloat? Is that what all this is about?

            Linda
            Yes, I've sent my commentary to Mr Greenspan and Mr Blankfeld. My expectations of anything coming from it are low.

            And yes, you're way off base. I would actually like to purchase more FF tests, but they are simply priced too high. I would also like to purchase more Y111 upgrades, but they are also priced too high. Meanwhile, unless 23andMe makes a dramatic change in it's pricing and family plan discount, I have no concerns about their future and will continue to purchase more tests from them during their next sale. And even if they did eventually have a major change, I still have the raw data and already have more information than had I tested all on FF.

            While I have a few V3s I might upload to FF, I have many more V2s that I would have considered uploading. Primary reason to upload are simply based on comparing to widest dataset possible, which means both. With vast majority of all matches being too distant to be of much value to anyone, best value of autosomal DNA tests come from comparison with close relatives and locating more recently related genetic cousins. Best way to do this is to fish in both ponds, simply increased odds of lucking out with regard to whom is in the database.

            Does it make sense that a long time customer of FTDNA who has spent thousands of dollars purchasing tests over the last decade and responsible for a nearly equal amount of other customer purchases through recommendation should have to pay more for a FF test than it would cost them to test with their competitor and upload results to their system?

            One of the best thing for all consumers is the presence of strong competition which helps to continue to pressure pricing and incent innovation and efficiency. The best thing for all hobbyist interested in the subject would be strength and growth across all the competitors.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Geneadict View Post
              You seem to be missing one of the primary points. With $50 23andMe upload option, it will cost less to test with them and do the upload than it will to buy FF from FTDNA.
              Geneadict, I really mean it when I say you should try to contact FTDNA with your ideas as to pricing options. Please, just try it.

              Linda

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Peacock100 View Post
                No, it would not cost less. At 23 and Me it costs 99 dollars + (9 dollars x 12 months minimum subscription) = 207 dollars. If one wants to upload to FTDNA there would be an additional 50 dollars cost, so 257 dollars for an autosomal test doing it that way
                And for those of us internationally, add courier costs for return mail:

                23andme: $50-75
                Family Tree DNA: ~$15-20

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