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  • Questions of Rurikovich to DNA-genealogist

    Isolation of DNA-genealogy from a life and to real genealogy of dynasties and peoples has led me to the decision to discuss the key moment new sciences with academicians and experts of DNA-genealogy. The main question consists in definition of time of a life of general ancestor TMRCA by modern scientists.
    In the beginning genealogist define modal Haplotype an ancestor, for example Rurik or Mac Donald. Then compare quantity of mutations of the applicant for relationship with modal Haplotype an ancestor and define TMCRA.
    The first example is. Haplotype of Kubarev we is compared with Haplotype Rurik, calculated on genes known by seven princes Rurikovich (we build the given reasoning on a basis 67-markers tests.). The genetic distance makes 14 mutations.

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    To me speak–your general ancestor with Rurik veins 14/0.12=117 or 2925 years ago. Thus Rurik veins 1200 years ago, therefore our general ancestor ostensibly lived 4125 years ago. Following logic of scientists – I‘m not present Rurikovich. The second example is. Haplotype FRNFQ D.L. McDonald will defend from modal Haplotype conditional, unknown Mac Donald's on 17 mutations and 40 generations, i.e. on 1000 years according to the project Clan Mac Donald's. The forefather the Poppy Donald was born only 700 years ago. Therefore speak that FRNFQ D.L. McDonald not the "present" Mac Donald. On Klyosov TMCRA will be 17/0.12=142 or 3550 years ago, and in view of Donald's first the Poppy life 700 years ago we shall receive 4250 years ago. I want to ask academicians and how they in general compare Rurik or John Mac Donald, living 1200 and 700 years ago accordingly, with modern people? I without any analysis shall tell, that my general ancestors with Rurik itself Rurik, his father Russ Aydar, forefathers Kubrat, Titus Vespasianus Flavius, Zeus and Adam. It is at Haplotype FRNFQ D.L. McDonald the forefather is John Mak Donald.

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    • #3
      Modal Haplotype of Rurik and John Mak Donalda mean values alleles of loci DNA for the period of a life of these people. Anybody then does not translate modal Haplotype the past for modern date–simply nobody knows, that could take place with mutations Rurik or John Mac Donald today. Hence to define time of a life of general ancestor TMCRA at the applicant for relationship with Rurik or Mac Donald on modal Haplotype it is impossible, it is absolute bosh and nonsense. So at definition TMCRA for known prince Andrey Gagarin and Rurik we shall receive genetic distance 9 that means on Klyosov 9/0.12=75 or 1875 up to Rurik or from our time 3075 years ago. Therefore Prince Gagarin is not descendant Rurik. Hence for ingenious academicians of DNA-genealogist the general ancestor Rurik and Kubarev veins 4125 years ago and Rurik and his official descendant Prince Gagarin is 3075 years ago.

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      • #4
        (For the information we shall result below base Haplotype Rurik, Gagarin and Kubarev.
        Modal (base) Haplotype Rurik:
        14 23 14 11 11 13 11 12 10 14 14 30 18 9 9 11 12 25 14 19 29 14 14 15 15
        11 11 18 20 14 15 16 19 34 34 14 10 11 8 15 17 8 8 10 8 11 10 12 20 22 14 10 12
        12 18 7 13 21 21 16 12 11 10 11 11 12 11
        Haplotype of Prince Andrey Gagarin:
        14 23 14 11 11 13 11 12 10 14 14 30 18 9 9 11 12 25 14 19 29 14 15 15 15
        12 11 18 20 14 15 16 19 34 34 14 10 11 8 15 18 8 8 10 8 11 10 12 22 22 14 10 12
        12 18 7 12 21 21 15 12 11 10 11 11 12 11
        Haplotype of Kubarev:
        14 23 14 11 11 13 11 12 10 14 14 30 16 10 10 11 12 25 14 19 31 14 14 15 15
        11 11 18 20 14 16 17 18 34 34 13 10 11 8 15 17 8 8 10 8 11 10 12 21 22 14 10 12
        12 17 7 13 20 21 15 12 11 10 11 11 12 11)

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        • #5
          We believe that DNA-genealogist have transformed science in mambo jumbo. Who is responsible for this disgrace? In the Russian DNA-genealogist main started A.A. Klyosov, and in project Rurikid–Andrey Zhuravlen-Seslavin (the Russian Nobiliary Assembly) and Andrzej Bajor from Poland. In the project Mac Donald's for all bosh answers one of clan Mac Donald's, the professor which name we shall not named. Conclusions: 1. Modal (base) Haplotype the primogenitor can be defined theoretically, but on it is impossible to calculate time of a life of general ancestor TMCRA for the modern person and his possible ancestor. This time TMCRA can be defined only for pair probable cousins or groups of cousins (Haplotypes)–only contemporaries. 2. We strongly recommend the scientist of DNA-genealogist immediately to correct the monstrous mistakes and to not be engaged in a deceit and a manipulation public opinion as the position of the scientists who have lost the person of DNA-genealogy is immoral and ridiculous. Silly mistakes DNA-genealogist at construction of family trees and calculation TMCRA dishonor a science, honor and advantage of scientists. Grand Prince Valeriy Viktorovich Kubarev Rurikovich 31.05.2011.

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