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  • #16
    Originally posted by darroll View Post
    We have to draw the line.
    No-one gets my FF raw data.
    Either you match or you don't.
    Share it with another site or person?, no way.
    No, you can't have my kit number either.
    Why not?

    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

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    • #17
      Its ok - We already have your raw data and your kit number... and just look at all that stuff.. we never knew.



      Ha just kidding..
      Last edited by mkdexter; 5 October 2010, 07:02 PM.

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      • #18
        I already gave you my life history. I have to keep something a secret.
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        • #19
          Excellent reply! We won't tell...

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          • #20
            Here is a sneak preview.
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            • #21
              Do What?

              Originally posted by gijoeinfinity View Post
              You're much more at risk in being harmed by simply purchasing a DNA test over giving out your raw data resulting from such test.
              I don't have a clue what you are trying to say with this comment.

              I feel that I'm in much more danger of being "harmed" when I walk down the street or ride in a vehicle or plane than when I bought my genetic test kits or when I share my results.

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              • #22
                I think he means there is more risk of things like identity theft when yo gave your contact and payment information when ordering your test than what anyone might be able to do with even full access to your raw DNA data. A conclusion I would agree with. So if you feel buying something is an acceptable risk, than what on earth could there be to worry about if someone were to get a hold of your DNA data?

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                • #23
                  They take your DNA test results and sell it.
                  (they put it on a web site that charges to access it, I give some of our DNA for free). I'm just trying to help others find their kin and not make money off of it.

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                  • #24
                    What Me Worry?

                    I have plastered my DNA results anyplace I can enter them in manualy. It amuses me to think that anybody other than myself would have any interest in the information. I know that I will never win the lottery, but maybe I can be the 1 out of hundreds of thousands of people who the government attempts to use thier DNA results in some covert operation. Perhaps it can be used to solve the K-Mart candy bar heist of 1964. Que Sera, Que Sera.

                    As I await my destined misfortune, I continue to contact those who share an ancestor with me and attempt to place another piece of the jigsaw into position.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by zarlor View Post
                      The more important question I have, though, is what is it that you think you are trying to protect?
                      My freedom. Or anyone else's freedom. A law enforcement agency from framing me or someone else for rape or murder. So would Family tree DNA have to give out information if they were served with a warrant? Has this ever been done? If Family tree DNA ever became the world's biggest DNA bank, might they routinely give out information to the police and or government? If served with a warrant wouldn't they have to?

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                      • #26
                        The law can go on Y-Search or these other DNA data storing sites, as anyone can.
                        As far as framing you, they would have to prove the source of their DNA sample.
                        If they were able to read the DNA results, they would come up with a surname only.
                        If you are still afraid of this, allow no-one access to it. (Allot on Y-Search do).
                        If you are wanted or don't want to be tramatized, don't test.
                        Last edited by darroll; 15 October 2010, 03:35 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by twang View Post
                          My freedom. Or anyone else's freedom. A law enforcement agency from framing me or someone else for rape or murder. So would Family tree DNA have to give out information if they were served with a warrant? Has this ever been done? If Family tree DNA ever became the world's biggest DNA bank, might they routinely give out information to the police and or government? If served with a warrant wouldn't they have to?
                          That's pretty far-fetched, though. DNA results from one of these sites doesn't really use the same methods utilized by law enforcement. Getting framed by results here is even more far-fetched, especially, because it would somehow require the police to get your results from one of these sites where you publicly post your raw data (and Y-DNA and mtDNA would be fairly useless for this purpose, mind you, so we'd have to be talking autosomal/Family Finder results) then they'd have to track you down, somehow get a physical DNA sample from you that they could then plant, after the fact of course, at the crime scene or into evidence and nail you that way by then getting a warrant from FTDNA so they could legitimately claim they got your DNA results, etc... There are a lot easier ways for police to frame someone if they were so inclined and any chain of evidence involving a company like FTDNA would easily be refutable in court because it's not held to the same standards required of a proper chain of custody.

                          Sorry, but I just can't see that as a truly legitimate concern. It's just not really the right information for that purpose.

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                          • #28
                            Has anyone mentioned the geneticists who put their own autosomal raw data (similiar to Family Finder data) for public download with full names, backgrounds and all?

                            Seems like they dont have qualms about it, even, as "experts" they should know what can be done with it and what not.

                            Here you can get their data:
                            http://www.genomesunzipped.org/data

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                            • #29
                              There are over 200 dead and missing microbiologists.

                              http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage777280/pg1

                              http://www.thebigstinkguide.com/archives/micro.htm

                              http://www.rense.com/general18/five.htm

                              http://www.apfn.org/apfn/scientists.htm

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                              • #30
                                There was a recent case where a murder suspect's dna was used on one of these sites, to give law enforcement his most likely surname and also geographic location. They then found a suspect with that surname, in that geographic area, who had priors for a similar crime. The genealogy was only used to locate him and bring him in for questioning, of course they had enough other evidence to convict him. So don't think law enforcement can't use genealogy to locate criminals. They would never have caught this guy without clues like his name and geographical location, even though the genealogy dta was insuffucient to convict him.
                                But it is true that information on CODIS is the information used for paternity tests.
                                But law enforcement uses crazy things like ear prints etc anything they can find.

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