Snpedia and FGS Results

[Ann Turner]

Elistariel, not to worry. The entry in SNPedia is not about mtDNA at all. It's about a mutation at 1438 bases away from a nuclear gene named HTR2A.

[gtc]

I've donated my results data to Dr. Doron Behar and to GenBank, on an anonymous basis.

[~Elizabeth~]

I don't want to privately contract out an explanation of my FGS. There should be an online dictionary for all to see that explains each mutation and coding region jumble. I would love it if phylotree did that. I haven't looked at SNPedia yet, but it sounds as if it doesn't give a specific timeframe or pinpoint where certain mutations occur geographically.
Why doesn't FTDNA analyze FGS results and provide reports?

[~Elizabeth~]

I've read this thread and I think that FTDNA should provide an in-depth report with FGS results. I am waiting for my mtHVR2toMega and it looks like I will also get just a jumble of numbers & letters without any guide to explain it all. I remember when I had my first jumble in 2006 - it was my HVR1 mutation 16519c and I didn't know what it meant (I still don't know) but forum members said it is common and fast-moving/mutating and doesn't have a special significance, except to sort out who I match with within my own haplogroup. 16519c can occur in several haplogroups. When my FGS comes in I will compare the jumble of numbers & letters to the most recent Phylotree.org subclade listings for H1c, to see if I am only H1c or H1c1 or H1c2 or H1c3. If I have a jumble that phylotree hasn't yet classified, I will look for their H1 tree in the future to see if I match anything new.

[gtc]

If that's the case I don't want to deal with her at all. That just sounds wishy washy.

Hang on here. Dr Ann Turner is a well known, highly respected person in this field and there is nothing at all "wishy washy" with her, or her work.

If you follow my earlier advice and contact her at the email address I gave, as I said you will receive a service information description from her, amongst which are samples of her reports, as well as her standard fee.

If you then want to proceed you can with the knowledge of price and deliverable.

There is no suggestion that "prices may change". You pay her stated fee upfront and she delivers quite promptly thereafter.

[Elistariel]

Please send a private message to a participant regarding what Ann charges. Or better yet, contact her directly since prices may change.

-Darren Marin
Family Tree DNA

If that's the case I don't want to deal with her at all. That just sounds wishy washy.

K, done talking about pricing.

[gtc]

Please send a private message to a participant regarding what Ann charges.

Done.

Or better yet, contact her directly since prices may change.

In relation to which I gave her email address in an earlier post.

[Darren]

Please send a private message to a participant regarding what Ann charges. Or better yet, contact her directly since prices may change.

-Darren Marin
Family Tree DNA

[gtc]

^ If you don't mind, how much did it cost you? PM or ballpark figure is good too.

Her standard fee is ******

[Elistariel]

I contacted SNPedia and how I have another question.
What strand does ftDNA use to test the FGS?

Let's use 1438G for example. That's r6311 on SNPedia. How do I know if I have rs6311(C;C) or rs6311(C;T)?

[Elistariel]

^ If you don't mind, how much did it cost you? PM or ballpark figure is good too.

[gtc]

Further to my earlier mention, I have now received my mutations analysis report from Ann Turner. None of my test values are listed in the section "Polymorphisms linked to a disease", so that's good news.

Apart from a very thorough explanation of all aspects of mtDNA and its associated haplogroups (something that I needed as I am very new to mtDNA) Ann has given me insight into a "private" mutation that I possess.

She has also revised my haplogroup from plain "I" to I3 on the basis that I have 4 of the 5 mutations which, using Phylotree.org’s recent model, indicate I3, (FTDNA definition table shows only 1 mutation for I3 and I don't have it) and Ann suggests that the missing 5th one may be the result of a reverse mutation. Heck, as I read it, I may even define a new branch of “I3”.

All in all, I'm very happy with this service.

[Elistariel]

Hi all,

I don't disagree about not publishing your FGS results on your signature, etc. Put them on GenBank anonymously. Make sure you haplogroup project administrator can see them.

But to the original idea that 1438G has some relationship to suicidal behavior, it has about the same relationship as "Flash! Scientists find that most of those with suicidal behavior have two arms."

Bill Hurst

I'm not on GenBank.
While we're at it. I have ADD. There ya go a 'medical condition' I have, free of having to look it up.

[Elistariel]

Yes, that's true, but so is the reverse. Likewise, Ann Turner pointed out to me that our FGS results are shared by every member of our family who's related on our direct maternal line. As such, privacy issues do not concern just those of us who test, but all who could be affected by the results being made public. While we're each free to do what we want with our results, clearly this area of genetic genealogy calls for some ethical introspection.

Here, let me tell you the name of every person on my mother's mother's side...
Common decency tells you that you don't tell people the names of living family members when you do genealogy online.
Heck, the gene I COULD be carrying a gene for a rare disease isn't even mentioned on the snpedia site. (I have a cousin with it and another cousin who probably had it and passed away before I was even born.) - No I won't tell you what it is, but it's really rare. Both cousins had the same mtDNA as me.

[Bill Hurst]

Hi all,

I don't disagree about not publishing your FGS results on your signature, etc. Put them on GenBank anonymously. Make sure you haplogroup project administrator can see them.

But to the original idea that 1438G has some relationship to suicidal behavior, it has about the same relationship as "Flash! Scientists find that most of those with suicidal behavior have two arms."

Bill Hurst