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  • Y DNA I1d (M170)

    Is anyone else that designation..anyone want to say anything about it?

    Thanks,

    J.

  • #2
    M170 on FTDNA's tree = I* which I don't believe there has ever been an actual example of.

    M253 = I1*

    I1d* = L22.

    What company / lab did you test with?

    If that is only from the Genographic Project, they are using a VERY outdated tree.

    Are you a FTDNA customer? If so, please go check your Interactive Haplotree and see what it says for you.

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    • #3
      Ydna haplogroup i

      I have just received the final batch for 67 markers and my predicted Haplogoup is I Shorthand I-M170
      My matches 12/12 1
      25 Genetic distance 1 (same person)
      37 and 67 Nil matches
      Ancestral Origins
      12 marker
      Czchec Republic, France, Italy, Kazakhastan, Latvia (Ashkenazi), Scotland and Uzbekistan 1 each Greece 3 Germany 4
      25, 37 and 67 Nil matches
      all the % matches are > 1 so significance is very small
      As I understand it I would need to go to a deep clade test to narrow down the branch of I that belongs.
      I have had a look at Y search and the best Genetid distances I have come up with are not to promising
      25 marker GD 8
      12 marker GD 9 GD 8 GD 6 GD 5
      these two are in the not related bracket
      8 marker GD 1 I am not sure on the relevance of this one yet
      bob

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tpibob View Post
        I have just received the final batch for 67 markers and my predicted Haplogoup is I Shorthand I-M170
        My matches 12/12 1
        25 Genetic distance 1 (same person)
        37 and 67 Nil matches
        How many markers has your match been tested for? The number should show after his name on the 12 marker match.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tpibob View Post
          I have just received the final batch for 67 markers and my predicted Haplogoup is I Shorthand I-M170
          My matches 12/12 1
          25 Genetic distance 1 (same person)
          37 and 67 Nil matches
          Ancestral Origins
          12 marker
          Czchec Republic, France, Italy, Kazakhastan, Latvia (Ashkenazi), Scotland and Uzbekistan 1 each Greece 3 Germany 4
          25, 37 and 67 Nil matches
          all the % matches are > 1 so significance is very small
          As I understand it I would need to go to a deep clade test to narrow down the branch of I that belongs.
          I have had a look at Y search and the best Genetid distances I have come up with are not to promising
          25 marker GD 8
          12 marker GD 9 GD 8 GD 6 GD 5
          these two are in the not related bracket
          8 marker GD 1 I am not sure on the relevance of this one yet
          bob
          Maybe one out of ten I1 results are ambiguous enough to warrant a Deep Clade Test, but usually the test is a waste of money. The I1 branch, for most 37 & 67-marker results, can be determined just from the STRs.

          If I could see your results, I could tell you which branch and any others markers that might be useful to order.

          Join the I1 Project https://www.familytreedna.com/public...1/default.aspx and/or 'copy and paste' your results here or your Ysearch ID.

          Steve

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          • #6
            I'm I1* (M253)

            I just received my results from Geneographic, yesterday.

            My 12-Marker DYS results from the Genegraphic Project are as follows:

            393 - 13
            394 (19) - 14
            391 - 10
            439 - 11
            389-1 - 12
            389-2 - 16 (28)
            388 - 14
            390 - 23
            426 - 23
            385a - 12
            385b - 14
            392 - 11


            I searched on-line (Wikipedia Haplogroup I1) and found my DYS 12-markers are consistent with I1-N (Norse) with the peak location for I1-N being Sweden. The one DYS marker that is not exact is 385a which should be 14 but my 385a DYS marker is 12?

            I'm not sure, does this negate the I1-N Haplogroup or does one DYS marker being a 12 when it should be 14?

            Can someone help me out with this?



            Don Magnuson
            ----
            Haplogroup I1 (M253)

            [email protected]

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            • #7
              Hey Don,

              Have you seen this website?

              http://members.bex.net/jtcullen515/haplotest.htm

              It predicts your HG info.

              But you have to enter info in FTDNA order.

              So I think your Genographic to FTDNA conversion would be like this

              (in this order DYS: 393, 390, 19, 391, 385a, 385b, 426, 388, 239, 389i, 392, 389ii)
              13 23 14 10 12 14 12 14 11 12 11 28

              I punched that in and the prediction was pretty split, between
              • I1-ML (I1-MissingLink)
              • I1-T2 (I1-Transitional2)
              • I1-T13 (I1-Transitional13)


              I'm pretty sure the two T's are Transitional. I'm still not sure if one them is considered AS or N.

              Have you signed up on DNA-Forums? It's another great website.

              Good luck,
              spruithean

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