European forests

[T E Peterman]

I suspect that the "Celts" that made inroads into the German forests became "Germans", or at least the L11+ portion of the German population; however, I suspect that this didn't happen until the Celts developed Iron Age technology.

Timothy Peterman

[PDHOTLEN]

Re those continental Celts

I can't quote where I got my ideas. I have more than one book with them in it. But the Celts I was referring too were based in the Rhine region & central/southern Germany. I think those roads they built allowed the Germans and Slavs to eventually invade and take over. But they (Celts/Kelts) probably just changed their languages and allegiances, but remained there. There are Celtic burial mounds near Augsburg, Germany. The Germans came down later on. Anyway, those Celtic roads were paved with logs, etc; not just tracks in the forest.

[T E Peterman]

The log road information is quite interesting. Do you know if they date from the Bronze Age? or Iron Age?

Since U106 was a brother clade to P312 & since Frisians & Saxons are apparently the main carriers of U106, one could surmise that they started out as Austrian Celts, moved through the forest, became isolated from Celtic cousins & the cultural reinforcement of the Celts. When they got to northern Germany, they began interacting heavily with the proto-Slavic population & it was out of that contact, that the German language developed. The trade network probably grew to include Scandinavians.

Timothy Peterman

[PDHOTLEN]

The log road information is quite interesting. Do you know if they date from the Bronze Age? or Iron Age?

Since U106 was a brother clade to P312 & since Frisians & Saxons are apparently the main carriers of U106, one could surmise that they started out as Austrian Celts, moved through the forest, became isolated from Celtic cousins & the cultural reinforcement of the Celts. When they got to northern Germany, they began interacting heavily with the proto-Slavic population & it was out of that contact, that the German language developed. The trade network probably grew to include Scandinavians.

Timothy Peterman

I don't recall where I saw that about the Kelts paving their roads, but it may well be in the book "Deforesting the Earth.....", since it goes into a lot of detail about various things. Another (paperback) book I have, which has been mentioned by others in various threads, is "The Celts, A History" (1998,2004) by P.B. Ellis.