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    We have a 25/25 match with a family named Cranford from MD or NC. It seems it is a very close match to all in the Cranford DNA project. In the 1800's my 3rd great-grandfather was down there duing the civil war (not his wife, just him). Might this mean anything? Our family is from Hingham, Ma.
    We have proof positive birth and marriage records from town hall of our lineage. Might this mean some "fooling around", or could this be a coincidence? I don't mean to insult,but it is curious. Any thoughts?

  • #2
    Related Question

    I have an opposite, but related question.

    Each of my surname matches have had the 25 (or more) y-marker test.

    But my surname matches are only 12/25 no 25/25 or 24/25. If we are related, shouldn't I have more than only twelve matches?

    The results for 25 Marker Matches (17), Genetic Distance - 1, list three 24/25 matches and none share my surname. Therefore, we are not related within genealogic time, but instead much earlier than this.

    Sorry to cross post this question again, but are these the correct interpretations of the data?
    Last edited by john.boyd; 30 November 2004, 09:45 PM. Reason: wrong title

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    • #3
      Originally posted by candy
      We have a 25/25 match with a family named Cranford from MD or NC. It seems it is a very close match to all in the Cranford DNA project. In the 1800's my 3rd great-grandfather was down there duing the civil war (not his wife, just him). Might this mean anything? Our family is from Hingham, Ma.
      We have proof positive birth and marriage records from town hall of our lineage. Might this mean some "fooling around", or could this be a coincidence? I don't mean to insult,but it is curious. Any thoughts?

      you could be from brothers or sons of brothers who came to america in different places 2-300 yrs ago. 300 years ago is not a long time especially if your line lives a long time

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      • #4
        Candy,

        What is the surname that matches the Cranford YDNA-25? Also, have you contacted the GA for the Cranford project? Thanks.

        Phil

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        • #5
          People should always be on the lookout for surname switches. I have two lines with solid paper trails going back into the mid 1700s, where I hit solid brick walls, usually at the time of immigration. It could be that I just don't know where to look....

          But on the other hand, my Eagleton test subject had a high resolution match to a number of Petticrew test subjects. My Wilson test subject had a high resolution match to a numebr of McCown test subjects. So, in both cases, I am now considering surname switch to be a likely cause of these brick walls. Both test subjects were distant cousins.

          Before finalizing this conclusion, I am looking for two additional test subjects, descended from a different son of the earliest Eagleton & Wilson ancestors to confirm the match. If it holds, I will conclude that surname switch is the explanation.

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          • #6
            Candy,
            It's probably worth attempting to contact the match <Cranford> and look for any geographic location where your paper trail and theirs cross. There is always the possibility of a name change, maybe an adoption.

            Jeff

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            • #7
              My surname is Corthell. In the family bible it stated Robert Corthell was born in Glasgow, Scotland 1685/86. The story is that he was impressed or kidnapped to come to the "New World", where he was an apprentice/indentured servant to the Tower family of HIngham, Ma.
              There are no records of immigration for any surname Corthell, but we know proof positive he was in Hingham by 1700 and married Deborah Tower.
              Is it unusual to have a 25/25 match with a genetic distance of 0 to a different surname(Corthell/Cranford)?
              I have not contacted Cranford project yet. I wanted to find out if this was a common occurance first.
              Thank you for all of your replies.
              Candy

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              • #8
                Originally posted by candy
                My surname is Corthell. In the family bible it stated Robert Corthell was born in Glasgow, Scotland 1685/86. The story is that he was impressed or kidnapped to come to the "New World", where he was an apprentice/indentured servant to the Tower family of HIngham, Ma.
                There are no records of immigration for any surname Corthell, but we know proof positive he was in Hingham by 1700 and married Deborah Tower.
                Is it unusual to have a 25/25 match with a genetic distance of 0 to a different surname(Corthell/Cranford)?
                I have not contacted Cranford project yet. I wanted to find out if this was a common occurance first.
                Thank you for all of your replies.
                Candy
                do you have chelsea revere or winthrop ma?
                i asked my list for the tower researcher if your post sound familiar i'll get back if i get an answer

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                • #9
                  reuben robert in chelsea

                  i have a reuben robert tower in chelsea
                  btw are you a female decendent of deborah
                  the chelsea project does ydna and mtdna so if you are a surname project member and you do mtdna allow me to know about it because maybe a tower decendent does it under another name in chelsea project

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                  • #10
                    It is actually my son's dna. Since he is 11 years old, I do his talking.
                    My husband is bored to death with all of my genealogy and DNA, so he refuses to take a test.

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                    • #11
                      Candy,

                      Upgrade to 37 markers (if any of the Cranford matches at 25 have been tested for 37). See if the relevant match holds. If so, your Corthells are probably Cranfords, or visa versa.

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                      • #12
                        crosses

                        we all have our crosses to bear
                        especialy that one

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