Ottoman Empire Sultans haplogroup J2

[J Man]

Anatolia is supposed to be the area where J2 originated, so the first thought about a Turkish J2 is that it did originate there. Perhaps one would have expected a more eastern haplogroup, like Q or R1a or the like.

cacio

I am not completely sure but it would make the most sense to me that the Sultans paternal line did in fact originate in Anatolia and has always been there. The again I suppose that it could have originally come from Central Asia as well as there is a good amount of J2 there as well.

[Kaiser]

I quote from National Geographic, Nov 1987, 'Suleyman the Magnificent':

"We pick up Suleyman's ancestors on history's radarscope in the tenth century, deep in the heart of Eurasia. The dust devils dancing on the distant steppes of Turkestan grows into a cyclone as it swirls through Iran and Iraq and bursts on Byzantine Anatolia in the late 11th century."

The above quote implies that the ancestors of the Ottomans originated from Turkestan (not to be confused with Turkmenistan), a vast region covering present day Kyrgyzistan, Kazakhstan and western portions of Xinjiang Province of China. One wonders if these lands harboured Haplogroup J2?

Nonetheless, J2 is Turkey's largest Y Haplogroup, as can be gleaned from the paper, Excavating Y-chromosome haplotype strata in Anatolia, Cengiz Cinniog˘lu et al, 2003:

J2 - 24%; R1b3 - 15%; E3b - 11%; G - 11%; J1 - 9%; R1a - 7%; I - 5%; R2 - 1%.

[cacio]

Anatolia is supposed to be the area where J2 originated, so the first thought about a Turkish J2 is that it did originate there. Perhaps one would have expected a more eastern haplogroup, like Q or R1a or the like.

cacio

[V.R.R]

[QUOTE=J Man;154422]The Sultans of the Ottoman Empire belonged to haplogroup J2. This has been deduced by the testing of one of the descendants of H.I.H. Prince Yusuf Izzedidin. Here is the ysearch id 94A9M. This haplotype looks like it probably belongs to J2a M410 as well.

This is quite interesting. According wikpedia this haplogroup be reasonably common in parts of Italy, Greece and Albania. The region which was the Ottoman Empire had already been "colonized" by the Greeks, Persians, Romans culminating in the Byzantine empire . It is a very large number of people coming from many different cultures and regions, with ethnic traits themselves. But what is the world region that did not receive current migratory? (unwanted by most of the locals)

[J Man]

The Sultans of the Ottoman Empire belonged to haplogroup J2. This has been deduced by the testing of one of the descendants of H.I.H. Prince Yusuf Izzedidin. Here is the ysearch id 94A9M. This haplotype looks like it probably belongs to J2a M410 as well.

When it comes to all of the people who have turned out to be haplogroup J2 this example is probably the most famous one. The only other famous haplogroup J2 person I know of so far is Matt Lauer. The Ottoman Sultans certainly did command a pretty large and powerful Empire. On the whole they were good military commanders and tacticians as well.