DeCodeMe results

[burto]

Hi,
I was just wondering if any of you out there who have done the DeCodeMe full scan would care to share your autosomal/X results AND/OR your map of kinship and how this fits in with known ancestry?
Thanks.

[cacio]

My decodeme name is the same as the one here, feel free to send an invitation (I didn't find any burto there)

cacio

[Maria_W]

Willing to share...

Burto and Cacio,
I would be willing to share my DeCodeme results with you and anyone who has tested with DeCodeMe... My name is the same: Maria_W. Just invite me!

Maria

[burto]

Hi both,
It's not my profile, it's my Mum's so you won't find me will have a look for you both on her account and invite you!

[burto]

DeCodeMe map of kinship

Does anyone know how to read it? It seems to change! On world, the little person is in one place and then on Europe it's somewhere else?! And then if you change the dimension view, it changes again! Are you supposed to go on the world map version or the Europe/localised area version?!

[Maria_W]

Confused

I don't know how the heck to read it either and what value is it? I don't even mess with it....
Maria

[Maria_W]

Comparing genomes...

Thanks Cacio and Burto (for your mom) for the invite to share results...When comparing individual chromosomes I am closer to Cacio than your mom Burto...

Maria

[cacio]

The person is still in the same place. It's kind of confusing, but this is a three-dimensional space. That is, you should imagine each datapoint as a colored ball (or bubble, if you prefer) floating in space.

To get a feel for what's going on, you can play around navigating. Start from the world view, then move by hitting the navigation buttons (< >) etc. For instance, if you click on >, you will see that the thing starts to rotate. It's still the same thing, but it is rotating. The same happens if you move in other directions.

When you click on + and -, you'll see you are zooming in, it's as if you were moving closer to the observations.

When you switch to continent view , it's like you were zooming in to the area occupied by the balls that refer to a specific continent. Most of the balls of the world view disappear, and only the balls referring to the population in the continent show up. You are always in the same place, but simply, now you view everything from a much closer position. The little man seems to change position because you're not zooming in to the little man per se, you're zooming in to the center of the "bubbles" that refer to a specific continent.

As for how to interpret the graph, one can think of it as showing the genetic distance between people. the greater the distance in the graph, the greater the genetic distance. It's not possible from the graph to deduce a specific number, it's just a visual representation.

cacio

[burto]

But that's it...the person moves when I compare the world view (where he's only in Europe anyway) and I then look at the specific European region
I would have thought that if you only share similarities with one world region on world view, the person should stay in the same place on the regional view, but it doesn't.
On world, the person is half way between Western European populations and Eastern ones. On Europe, he has shifted more over to Western Europe and that distinct half way position has gone! I thought it might be something to do with the view, but then thought world and europe would open as the same view/dimension (which they seem to).

[burto]

Hmm..interesting! Yes thanks for accepting, found it fascinating, especially the map of kinship, even though it is confusing and my little man shifts closer to yours in the European view, whereas he's out in the wilderness compared to yours on the world view! Considering you have (correct me if I'm wrong Maria) British, Swiss and German ancestry, I was impressed with where your little man was placed.

[Maria_W]

Could you explain...

Burto,
Could you please explain what you mean by you were impressed with where I was in the world view.... Don't understand how to use it...

Maria

[cacio]

I tried playing around with myself. In the end, I came to the conclusion that I stay in the same position, but I just looked at myself.

Two things:
first, things are complicated because in the initial world view, Europe is just a small clump and it is impossible to see the different parts of Europe.
If one starts zooming in, Europe soon gets out of the plot, so one has to also move around to recenter, which makes things difficult to reconcile.

Second:
it appears that the world view and Europe view are not viewed from the same location. It seems to me that what is left in the world view, becomes right in the Europe view, and what is up in the world view, becomes down in the Europe view. For instance, the Russians are bottom right in the world view initial axis orientation, but are up left in the Europe view.

cacio

[Maria_W]

Wrong thread!

I am tired thought I had the wrong thread but I din't!

Maria

[burto]

Hi Maria,
If you open the map of kinship, you start by viewing a world map. You are somewhere at the top, in the Europe section.
Using your mouse, if you zoom in, and left click and hold to move up or down until you find your little man, you will see that he is sat between the France/Iceland/Orkney populations I think. In the box on the right, it says "show" and if you click this, you can see where your friends are on the map of kinship to compare.
Mum is half way between these populations and Russia/Adygei, which DeCodeMe say suggests her father was of Eastern European ancestry, given her mother was English.

[burto]

Hi Cacio,
Yeah I thought that might be the case, that it's the same map but at a different angle, have sent you an invite!