Why call it WESTERN Atlantic Modal Haplotype

[rainbow]

Yes, but the forest animals with all their eardrums don't count? :>

Exactly. What the teacher was talking about was that if man wasn't around to be a witness to something, then it didn't exist. I think a tree makes a sound when it falls whether almighty man is there to witness it or not. And a tree can fall whether it is witnessed or not. Why he asked me that silly question out of the blue I have no idea. And then he asked the others what they thought and if anyone else disagreed with him then they would have to leave too. It was just unbelievable. I think he just wanted students who thought he was infallible and that everything he said was right even when it wasn't.
I was the only one that had to leave.

It had nothing to do with eardrums. It wasn't a music or science class.

He didn't say what his opinion/answer was until after I gave my answer.


It's a case of don't question authority versus question everything.


I've also encountered people that insist that Jesus created the earth and trees and flowers. I would tell them that the earth existed before him. Fell on deaf ears. But that is off-topic I guess.

[rainbow]

Hello all,

I have to agree on this one that the name is not specific to what it is referencing. This was named by a scientist (no idea who) who didn't necessarily think about redundant or ambiguous words in the phrase they used, and the phrase stuck. Western of course refers to western Europe, Atlantic refers to along the Atlantic (which also happens to be western... go figure). But add the two together and it would seem that Western would the the Western side of the Atlantic, of course this is not what was intended.

Darren Marin
Family Tree DNA

Thank you. I'm glad someone else chimed in here, and glad it was you.

[M.O'Connor]

The "Current European Atlantic Model" ..might work

[Jim Barrett]

I've also encountered people that insist that Jesus created the earth and trees and flowers. I would tell them that the earth existed before him. Fell on deaf ears. But that is off-topic I guess.

Yes, off-topic, but I thought that God created the earth and trees and flowers and that Jesus was his son!

[Stevo]

If you could point me to a haplogroup that was actually sparked on the east coast of North America, I'd agree that dropping the "European" is weird, but so far, I don't know any.

It does leave out Africa, and that is what makes it appear to be too Euro centric.

I used to only see it called AMH - Atlantic Modal Haplotype.

It's a little tough not to appear "Eurocentric" when discussing R1b1b2!

[rainbow]

The "Current European Atlantic Model" ..might work

Yes, I also think "European Atlantic" is a better term for R1b. Maybe "Northeast Atlantic"?
Or just "West European".
Or "European Coastal Atlantic"?

But not "Western Atlantic".

[rainbow]

Yes, off-topic, but I thought that God created the earth and trees and flowers and that Jesus was his son!

Exactly. God, or something older than Jesus, created the earth. But some people say Jesus created everything. I have figured out that their reasoning is that they believe that Jesus was God incarnate and not just the son of God.

[M.O'Connor]

Earth was not created.

(I guess we all can have our say.)

[derinos]

Yes, off-topic, but I thought that God created the earth and trees and flowers and that Jesus was his son!

OK On topic, the topic being "information methodology", starting with genomic science, but widely applicable?

Jim's statement above. Why would one think either of those things?

Why, Because of one's adopted orthodoxy.
Another orthodoxy is held by some, that Jesus is/was also coexistent (in Eternity, ie free in all sequential time) with, and coidentical with, God.
Both orthodoxies regard each other as heresy. The Trinity was introduced quite later on (? Nicene agreements), partly to avoid such arguments, which are still frequent outside the infallibility zone.

[derinos]

Earth was not created.

(I guess we all can have our say.)

Goodie!
We, The Deist Scientists, think the Formative Process of Planet Earth began ca 13.8 billion years ago in a Singularity, and remains In Progress.