New Tribes' Populations

[~Elizabeth~]

I have found the surname online in the Czech Repuplic too. Also read that the surname is/was of a noble Magyar/Hungarian family. They lived in various areas that they administered, even as far south as Dalmatia. The surname varied upon the region. The village that they came from has a current population of less than 600, but has nice aerial views of the castles that are still there. The webpage says the male line died out 5 centuries ago. M aybe my line were serfs and accompanied/worked for them and took the surname as their own, and that is why they traveled a lot . I match Croatia. Dalmatia is in Croatia.

[~Elizabeth~]

Usable Croatia-Slovakia train services began about 1845.

His town got the railroad when he was an adolescent. The earliest record I have of him is the ship manifest (Bremen to New York). I have read online that the surname does exist in that town. And they had a fire when my greatgrandfather was a baby. His wedding was on the anniversary. Awful day to pick. Maybe the fire destroyed my greatgrandfathers birth records? I have a greatgreatgrandfather on my mothers side who had a similar situation (courthouse containing documents burned in the US Civil War).

[derinos]

Thank you for the link. I tried the link but couldn't navigate. I will try it the next time I am on a regular computer. Years ago I wrote to the respective districts. My greatgrandmothers birth record (and baptism) was found by 3 people (different departments?), but there was no record of my greatgrandfathers birth, or even existence. A man on ysearch with the same surname told me that maybe my greatgrandfather was born in another town but grew up in the one he listed as his birthplace. The paternal line of the man on ysearch was from a town near the town where my greatgrandfather claimed to be born. And he said the surname and family was originally from Croatia, but they went back and forth a lot and lived in both areas. With Croatia being on the Adriatic, it is possible that my line had mariners.

Usable Croatia-Slovakia train services began about 1845.

[Jim Honeychuck]

Is there a company or a website that already has the records for analyzing autosomal DNA results if we already have our numbers? For example I have my results from a previous paternity test. I noticed the same alleles that DNA tribes uses in their sample are the same markers I already have numbers for that were made during a paternity test. Just wondering as a way to save time or if it is already out there on the internet somewhere.

If your ancestry is European, use http://www.str-base.org/calc.php

For all populations, download Omnipop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OmniPop

Regards,
Jim

[mkdexter]

Does someone read known alleles?

Is there a company or a website that already has the records for analyzing autosomal DNA results if we already have our numbers? For example I have my results from a previous paternity test. I noticed the same alleles that DNA tribes uses in their sample are the same markers I already have numbers for that were made during a paternity test. Just wondering as a way to save time or if it is already out there on the internet somewhere.

[~Elizabeth~]

I have Andalusia, Spain in my top 20 again, at (0.25) 60.95, but the extended report has 5 different scores for Andalusia. 2 are not a match. My lowest Andalusia is (0.04) 0.33.

Tunisia is in my top 20 also, but the extended shows 5 different Tunisia scores and 3 are not a match. The lowest is Zriba Arab (Central Tunisia) at (0) 0.00.

I do match the areas I know my ancestors are from, but most of the scores are in the extended report.

Wales, United Kingdom (0.16) 11.87
The 3 Ireland categories are (0.23) 32.72 , (0.2) 20.90 , and (0.15) 16.55. I don't match Orkney but I match the other 4 Scotland categories. Top one is (0.23) 37.46.
Match Czech Republic categories. Top one is (0.25) 26.19.

I don't know of any Greek ancestry but I match all the Greece and Greek Cypriot categories. The top one is (0.33) 32.70.

I don't match 9 of the 32 Italy categories. The lowest is Tuscany at (0) 0.00.

[~Elizabeth~]

DNA Tribes has multiple categories with the same or similar name but with very different scores. There are three Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. One of them is "Northern Rio de Janeiro, Brazil" which I match at (0.43) 121.05. The other two are just "Rio de Janeiro, Brazil". One is a match for me at (0.39) 91.48. The other is not a match at (0) 0.08.

I did a search for Portugal. There are ten Portugal categories. I match nine of them. The one I don't match is Roma (Portugal) at (0.02) 0.20.

My top ranked world region is North African. My top 20 has Morocco and Tunisia. But the extended report has only one category named North African - "North African Jewish (Morocco, Tunisia, Libya) but it is only (0.02) 0.07. That is not a match. It doesn't make sense.

[~Elizabeth~]

I think it`s the reason why the mid eastern matches are so close to the African matches on my DNA Tribes report. If so your paternal grandmother was adopted, you wont know for sure until you find profs,but i`m sure it will not come to that and there's a reasonable explanation about your DNA Tribes results. ~Elizabeth~, What do the DNA test say about all the testing you did up to this point. Do all if any of it agree with the rest of your test results it has to be some sort of patterns there. Don`t give up, you never know have close you`re to the goal.

Well, DNATribes does point to Croatia now. I am 1/4 Czech. But my two "Czech" greatgrandparents were from Slovakia. And it seems to me that my greatgrandfather may have been of Croatian deep ancestry.

My 23andme results contradicts my AncestryByDna results, so the real story behind my paternal grandmother is up in the air. Her official genealogy is English, Dutch, Scottish, French, Belgian, German (Alsace).

[~Elizabeth~]

Most Slovak church records are available on microfilm. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Libr...meset_fhlc.asp

Regards,
Jim

Thank you for the link. I tried the link but couldn't navigate. I will try it the next time I am on a regular computer. Years ago I wrote to the respective districts. My greatgrandmothers birth record (and baptism) was found by 3 people (different departments?), but there was no record of my greatgrandfathers birth, or even existence. A man on ysearch with the same surname told me that maybe my greatgrandfather was born in another town but grew up in the one he listed as his birthplace. The paternal line of the man on ysearch was from a town near the town where my greatgrandfather claimed to be born. And he said the surname and family was originally from Croatia, but they went back and forth a lot and lived in both areas. With Croatia being on the Adriatic, it is possible that my line had mariners.

[Jim Honeychuck]

My DNATribes is still an odd and far-flung assortment. My actual ancestry is, to simplify, 3/4 British Isles and 1/4 Czech.
The 3/4 isn't a solid 3/4, but is mostly British Isles with a teensy amount of Dutch + French + Belgian + Swiss + German. My Czech side is the side I know the least about. I was able to trace my "Czech" great-grandmother to Slovakia, and I have a copy of her birth certificate. She was born in a small town near todays border of Slovakia + Austria. I haven't been able to get a birth record of my "Czech" great-grandfather who was supposedly born in a small town/village in the West Tatras in Slovakia, near the Polish border.

Most Slovak church records are available on microfilm. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Libr...meset_fhlc.asp

Regards,
Jim

[~Elizabeth~]

Guess what. China and India were also trading with the Horn of Africa in ancient times. It's on the web.

[~Elizabeth~]

My Native American Panel has no matches. The top one is "Athabaskan (Alaska) (0.01) 0.02". All else is "(0) 0.00".

Part D World Region Horn of Africa includes Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, and possibly the legendary Land of Punt (a place the ancient Egyptians went on expeditions to). The ancient Greeks, Arabs, Romans, maybe India, and ancient Israelites traded with and were in contact with people from the area of the Horn of Africa. The most famous connection was between Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, which is present-day Ethiopia, and Ethiopia claims to have the Ark of the Covenant. I have said before that I thought that the low amount of African in some Jewish people is probably from Ethiopia. Probably the same for some Italians and Arabs and Greeks, etc.

[~Elizabeth~]

If my paternal grandmother was adopted, then I am only half British Isles and not part Dutch + Belgian etc.

My Croatia match makes me wonder....that is on the Adriatic. It would be possible to have all those other odd matches if my Czech ancestors were of Croatian deep ancestry and had mixed for centuries with Sicily, Syria, Tunisia, and Morocco etc. But I feel I have some Phoenician deep ancestry, and maybe somehow all four grandparents had that? Maybe people of Phoenician ancestry settled in the British Isles? Or maybe I am descended from Spanish sailors that raided the coastal towns? I had heard on tv (Rick Steves travel show) that the Spanish burnt down a town in Cornwall (1500s or 1600s). Phoenicians did settle in Spain (Cadiz).

[~Elizabeth~]

My DNATribes is still an odd and far-flung assortment. My actual ancestry is, to simplify, 3/4 British Isles and 1/4 Czech.
The 3/4 isn't a solid 3/4, but is mostly British Isles with a teensy amount of Dutch + French + Belgian + Swiss + German. My Czech side is the side I know the least about. I was able to trace my "Czech" great-grandmother to Slovakia, and I have a copy of her birth certificate. She was born in a small town near todays border of Slovakia + Austria. I haven't been able to get a birth record of my "Czech" great-grandfather who was supposedly born in a small town/village in the West Tatras in Slovakia, near the Polish border.

[~Elizabeth~]

I also have a new extended report, and of the 1040 categories I have 1.00+ with 438.

Updated Europa:
Portuguese (0.36) 90.08
Celtic (0.28) 56.18
Belgic (0.33) 51.41
Spanish (0.31) 48.87
Italian (0.28) 32.44
Germanic (0.27) 27.70
Balkan (0.31) 26.61
Thracian (0.3) 19.39
Norse (0.21) 17.24
Greek (0.25) 16.83
Scythian (0.22) 16.01
Basque (0.14) 14.55
Polish (0.17) 7.64
Russian (0.14) 5.49
Finnic (0.13) 3.80
Urals (0.15) 3.53
Ashkenazic (0.04) 1.87