New Tribes' Populations

[DeeTyler]

I apologize for "eavesdropping" but I am finding this conversation totally fascinating, and you have got me tempted to check into DNA Tribes as well. My family's Y and mt DNA tests don't have any matches yet and I'm wondering if it might give me some additional clues about what areas we might tie into. At this point I'll take any clues I can get!

I'm assuming that this is a test that can also be taken by a female? And, judging by the reports you get, would it help me narrow in on general regions in the British Isles?

It looks VERY cool!

[rainbow]

New estimate is approximately 1/8, with 1/8 to 1/4 not excluded.

[rainbow]

Thanks


I have no matches in my newest Native American panel. The top three are:
Athabaskan (Alaska) (0.01) 0.01
Hnu Hnu (Otomi) (Hidalgo, Mexico) (0) 0.00
Chol Maya (Northeast Chiapas, Mexico) (0) 0.00


Sometimes I get over 1.0 for Athabaskan (Alaska) in my updates, and sometimes I don't.

I still have Latin American matches and Native American (mixed) matches, and a world region match to Mestizo.

My world region matches are the same twelve as last time (above 1.0). Here are the new numbers:
North African (0.36) 75.49
Mediterranean (0.33) 47.40
Northwest European (0.29) 42.71
Aegean (0.37) 34.17
Levantine (0.33) 33.65
Mestizo (0.46) 28.41
Mesopotamian (0.34) 24.92
Finno-Ugrian (0.24) 17.59
North India (0.33) 11.41
Eastern European (0.18) 10.57
Arabian (0.1) 6.51
South India (0.06) 1.41

In my Part B, I picked up Southern Morocco (Arabic speakers), and Turkey. Those two replaced Arab (Israel), and Extremadura, Spain. But not in the same spots, just within the top twenty.

[rainbow]

Hi rainbow,

The scores were quite a surprise! I'm presently waiting for my 23andme results to come in to see whether they confirm the Tribes results.

I've since encountered a poster on another thread who's 1/2 NA and has a Global Tribes breakdown similar to mine. His highest Regions score is also Mestizo, only his is very slightly lower than mine.

I wonder if you'll get a percentage of East Asian. 23andme lists American Indian as East Asian.
But one poster who had 10% Native American from one test (DNA Print) got no East Asian at all with 23andme (or decodeme? one of those companies.)

But with your high Mestizo score from DNA Tribes I would expect you would have at least 20% East Asian with 23andme. Let's wait and see.


I managed to view my new pdfs from DNA Tribes. My latest update was emailed to me on May 21, but I couldn't view it until this afternoon.

It's pretty much the same as my previous ones. Lots of Portugal. I picked up Southern Morocco in my top 20 this time (#3). And I have Turkey again, at #20. In my new Europa, I have Portuguese at #1, and Celtic at #2, and Spanish at #3 (Norse dropped to fourth and Spanish moved up to third).



edit: Here is my new signature (I copied and pasted it to here, instead of retyping it all), with my latest top three matches from DNA Tribes.

Elizabeth
MTDNA: H1 16519C
2006 AncestryByDna 2.5: 83% European & 17% Native American.
Europa: Portuguese (0.34) 78.63, Celtic (0.29) 43.79, Spanish (0.28) 43.00
Part B: Syria (0.58) 183.82, Morocco (0.4) 155.59, Southern Morocco (Arabic speakers) (0.24) 145.64
Part C: Puerto Rican (Springfield, Massachusetts, U.S.A.) (0.53) 215.38, Sergipe, Brazil (0.42) 214.46, Syria (0.58) 183.82
Part D: North African (0.38) 75.49, Mediterranean (0.33) 47.40, Northwest European (0.29) 42.71

[drouhin]

Hi rainbow,

The scores were quite a surprise! I'm presently waiting for my 23andme results to come in to see whether they confirm the Tribes results.

I've since encountered a poster on another thread who's 1/2 NA and has a Global Tribes breakdown similar to mine. His highest Regions score is also Mestizo, only his is very slightly lower than mine.

[rainbow]

Hi drouhin,

I'm wondering what yor results were. Did you get them yet?

You and I both have ancestry from New Jersey and I wondered if you have Mestizo or other Native American/Latin American matches (that is what I have).

Elizabeth

Oops, never mind. I just saw that you already posted them in another thread, and that we already talked about all that in that thread.
I guess I'm getting forgetful.

[rainbow]

Friday, May 15, 2009
New Populations for May 15, 2009

We are pleased to announce the addition of several new populations to our database:

New East Asian Populations:
Central Thailand (212)
Indonesia (402)
Northeastern Thailand (304)
Northern Thailand (202)
Philippines (181)
Southern Thailand (211)

New European Populations:
Moldavia, Romania (1,321)
Republic of Montenegro (101)

New Latin American Populations:
Mestizo (Bolivia) (148)

New Near Eastern Populations:
Palestinian (Gaza Strip) (125)
Southern Morocco (Arabic speakers) (204)

New South Asian Populations:
Bengali (Bangladesh) (148)

Thank you Tomcat

I ordered the update analysis for the new algorithm and new populations. I may or may not get "Mestizo (Bolivia)", but chances are I will get "Palestinian (Gaza Strip)", since I match "Arab (Israel)" and "Syria" on my last update. They don't have a category for Lebanon yet (where the Phoenicians were from).
Chances are my matches will change with the new algorithm (that word always makes me think of Al Gore).

I think DNA Tribes pdfs/digests are interesting. They are like the autosomal version of the Genographic Project.

[rainbow]

Does anyone know how quick the turnaround is for the 21 marker Tribes report, especially recently?

I just sent in my sample, and it got to the lab around Wednesday, this week. Any hope for receiving the report by the end of next week?

Can you tell I want to see the results?

Hi drouhin,

I'm wondering what yor results were. Did you get them yet?

You and I both have ancestry from New Jersey and I wondered if you have Mestizo or other Native American/Latin American matches (that is what I have).

Elizabeth

[tomcat]

Recent Tribes' Population.db Update

Friday, May 15, 2009
New Populations for May 15, 2009

We are pleased to announce the addition of several new populations to our database:

New East Asian Populations:
Central Thailand (212)
Indonesia (402)
Northeastern Thailand (304)
Northern Thailand (202)
Philippines (181)
Southern Thailand (211)

New European Populations:
Moldavia, Romania (1,321)
Republic of Montenegro (101)

New Latin American Populations:
Mestizo (Bolivia) (148)

New Near Eastern Populations:
Palestinian (Gaza Strip) (125)
Southern Morocco (Arabic speakers) (204)

New South Asian Populations:
Bengali (Bangladesh) (148)

[RegRiv]

My husband just received his a week or so ago. It took about 9 days total, (including the weekend days) from when they received it. It arrived in our email box on a Friday after 4 pm. Also, in the past, I've received report results late on a Saturday.

[V.R.R]

They are fast

Does anyone know how quick the turnaround is for the 21 marker Tribes report, especially recently?
I just sent in my sample, and it got to the lab around Wednesday, this week. Any hope for receiving the report by the end of next week?
Can you tell I want to see the results?

Hello! Dna Tribes is fast. They took 07 days to send my (21 maker).

[drouhin]

Does anyone know how quick the turnaround is for the 21 marker Tribes report, especially recently?

I just sent in my sample, and it got to the lab around Wednesday, this week. Any hope for receiving the report by the end of next week?

Can you tell I want to see the results?

[RegRiv]

Thanks for sharing, Elizabeth. It's so interesting to see the new changes. So, Syria is still #1 on your part B. (That's my hubby's #1 hit, too.) I'll wait a bit longer before I do any updates on myself -even though I'm always curious where things sit. (Last time, Iceland pushed Brazil out of my top 3.)

[rainbow]

I just got my newest DNA Tribes update analysis.
I already edited my signature to reflect it.
I'll copy and paste it here.

Elizabeth
MTDNA: H1 16519C. From Colonial Virginia.
2006 AncestryByDna 2.5: 83% European & 17% Native American.
Europa: Portuguese (0.35) 78.35, Norse (0.32) 44.84, Celtic (0.25) 42.03
Part B: Syria (0.60) 184.97, Morocco (0.38) 146.23, Portugal (0.35) 109.21
Part C: Sergipe, Brazil (0.41) 217.78, Puerto Rican (Springfield, Massachusetts, U.S.A.) (0.53) 216.25, Syria (0.60) 184.97
Part D: North African (0.32) 64.10, Mediterranean (0.31) 48.05, Northwest European (0.29) 39.13

My Native American panel doesn't have any matches this time again. The top of the list is Athabaskan (Alaska) (0.01) 0.01. All the rest are 0.00.

In the Europa, Celtic bumped out Spanish (finally!) for third place. I think my Celtic should be in first place. The majority of my ancestry is British Isles. Except for the unknown 17% Native American detected by DNA Print in the summer of 2006.


Instead of picking up Qatar and Libya as I feared (a long time ago I matched Southern Tunisia) , my top 20 global picked up the new Brazilian category of Northern Rio, and the Central Portugal (and Azores). My top 20 global has 12 Brazil, 1 Puerto Rican, 1 Azores, 1 Caucasian, 1 Northeast Spain, 2 Portugal, 1 Morocco, and 1 Syria.

Sergipe, Brazil is now my top global match. I pronounce it "Sir Gippy" lol. I don't know if that is right.

The world regions are the same twelve as last time, with the same top three in the same order. Fourth is Aegean. Fifth is Levantine. Mestizo is sixth of the twelve and is at (0.45) 28.41.


My new Part B is:
Syria
Morocco
Portugal
Central Portugal
Northeast Spain
Flemish
Central Portugal (again)
Switzerland
Portugal (again)
Andalusia, Spain
Flemish (Belgium)
France
Flemish
Croatia
Bosnian Mountain Villages
Extremadura, Spain
Denmark
Sicily, Italy
Arab (Israel)
Piemonte, Italy


It's pretty much the same as my last one, except the matches to Turkey dropped out of the top 20. I think I picked up more Portugal. Did I have that Croatia before? I know I had the Bosnian Mountain Villages.

[rainbow]

Weren't there Indians already in Puerto Rico when the Spaniards arrived?

Yes there were already Caribbean Indians (Taino and Arawak) when the Spanish got there. And many were sent to Europe. But many Woodland/East Coast Indians were shipped out as slaves and sent to the West Indies and to Europe (I wonder where in Europe. Just NW Europe?). I think the people that moved to Massachusetts may be descended from the original New England Indians that were sent to the Caribbean/West Indies in the 1600s. They could be mixed with Taino as well as English, Spanish, Dutch etc.