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  • Yes. That brings back the point that either Maria has more Native American ancestry than she knows of or that results from 2 of the 3 autosomal admixture tests are wrong and overestimated her Asian-Native American. And if her results are wrong then mine would be also. And everyone's. Which test is right? Elizabeth
    Last edited by rainbow; 27 March 2009, 08:27 PM.

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    • Celtic scores...

      Hi Rainbow.
      I have Irish, English, Welsh, Scotts heritage...
      So as far as the Celtic score of 596 on Europa it was pretty right on...
      On part B. and C. my 3rd highest score was 1,476.97 for Northern Ireland..
      Part d my second highest score was Northwest European with 303...Includes the above countries...So its accurate for Celtic!

      Maria

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      • Hi Maria. Wow that is a high score for your Northern Ireland. That's great! Overall, do your new matches and scores make sense to you? Part of me wants to get the new analysis too, but I would probably get some more strange matches. In previous reports I had top 20 matches to Mozambique&Pakistan&Southern Tunisia. The only time I had matches that fit my known ancestry was my last 15 marker update-it had London, England and Scotland and Northern Ireland. But my 2nd highest was Bahrain. :? I want to wait until they have more USA Amerindian to compare with. Elizabeth

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        • I am getting tired of this!

          My DeCodeMe test scores and my ABDNA scores are very close and I have decided to go with them.. Bill Deyo, who is the tribal historian for the Potowomecke has told me that he thinks that I have more lines, Colonial and maybe recent then known about and he is going to try to help me find them, so ....I have alot of female ancestors, as in g.grandmothers and further back who have no last names or it says unknown spouse that were born in Virginia, Pennslyvana, North and South Carolina, Massachsuetts and Maine and New Jersey,ect all the way from 1600's, 1700's. Hello, maybe thats the missing element.

          Maria

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          • Why didn't you say that in the first place?

            I didn't know you had unknown lines. Wives whose names were unknown in colonial days very well could have been Native American. That is the reason I wanted to know my mtdna, because of an unknown wife in Virginia in the late 1700s on my direct maternal line. I hope you and your historian friend find out about yours.

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            • RE unknown wives

              Some of my female ancestors come to dead ends due to unknown maiden names. I don't have reason to think they were native Americans. One reason is that prior to 1850, the censuses did not include the names of wives or children. I lucked out in one line that takes it back to England; but that line is not my mtDNA. Another female line I think changed their name ("Vial" from Delaware). It may have originally been Weil (pronounced the same in German).
              Last edited by PDHOTLEN; 28 March 2009, 09:36 AM.

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              • I said maybe....

                I said "Maybe" this was the missing element, not that it was. Matter of fact I just found 2 maiden names and they aren't Native American so...

                Maria

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                • Originally posted by PDHOTLEN View Post
                  Some of my female ancestors come to dead ends due to unknown maiden names. I don't have reason to think they were native Americans. One reason is that prior to 1850, the censuses did not include the names of wives or children. I lucked out in one line that takes it back to England; but that line is not my mtDNA. Another female line I think changed their name ("Vial" from Delaware). It may have originally been Weil (pronounced the same in German).
                  Hi PDHOTLEN. I would agree. Lots of non-English names were changed to an English spelling. Or maybe your Vial was a midwife or medicine woman and was nicknamed Vial and it became her surname. Most likely it was originally Weil as you said. I just have a tendency to come up with alternate scenarios. Sometimes genealogy is like a mystery show on tv, except it takes longer than an hour to discover the truth. .Elizabeth
                  Last edited by rainbow; 28 March 2009, 07:45 PM.

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                  • I left off Delaware...

                    Duh. I have alot of ancestors from Delaware, some missing spouses. Matter of fact, such as Valentine Hollingsworth who is suppose to be married to Ann Ree. They were Quaker's from Newark, Delaware, New Castle County..in the 1650's or so. Came from Ireland...

                    Maria
                    Last edited by Maria_W; 28 March 2009, 08:17 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Maria_W View Post
                      I said "Maybe" this was the missing element, not that it was. Matter of fact I just found 2 maiden names and they aren't Native American so...

                      Maria
                      Hi Maria. It could be that some of the wives were originally Native American but were baptized and were given European names. Anything is possible. In my case, I don't believe my top global match is Puerto Rico, but it is. I googled New Jersey Native American and found that Tainos from the Caribbean migrated to New Jersey in the 1930s as agricultural workers. But my grandmother was born in 1928. When I met my grandmother and aunt, they gave me cosmetics-it was the week of my birthday- but the foundation was too dark for me. It was beige and I am an ivory, like my mom. When I said it was too dark and I couldn't wear it they laughed and looked at each other. My father would be a beige, as his mom. That reminds me of when my stepmother told me that my father doesn't like a lot of make-up, her way of telling me

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                      • I texted a long post from my phone and only the beginning part was posted.

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                        • Really mean spirited...

                          Thanks rainbow,
                          I really apprecaite the support. She is Helen Lorraine Waugh, my second cousin. Her husband made a mean joke about her Potowomecke heritage. He said the closest she ever came to being Native American was Cheif Wahoo! He is the mascot for the Cleveland baseball team..Made me really mad! How dare anyone make fun of someones heritage!

                          Maria

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                          • How is it prounced? I have trouble even spelling it. I copied and pasted it once to get it spelled right. The other day I tried to post about my great grandfather. I had wondered if my grandmother war adopted or the natural child of her parents. I never saw a photo of her parents but I found out thru help from Jodi-Yaffa that he had dark hair and brown eyes. His papers from the WWI era were online. I think it was called a draft card. He was never in the military. He worked at a foudry and for railroad in New Jersey before he became a meat cutter-butcher. Someday I find a description of his wife, my great grandmother. My theory was if both of her parents were blond she was adopted or something, but her father had the same dark hair and brown eyes. Her father was originally from Cloverhill, and her mom was from Flemington. His side has some French and I wonder if it was actually French-Indian. Her side, the little bit I found, with help from Jodi and a librarian, is all German. I think my Case and B

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                            • I think my Case line and my Brown line on my Trimmer side may be part Delaware Indian, Lenape, but I don't know for sure.

                              My birthday is in a few days.

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                              • Happy birthday...

                                Let me be the first to wish you a happy birthday ahead of time!
                                "Happy birthday to you,
                                Happy birthday to you,
                                Happy birthday Elizabeth,
                                Happy birthday to you! "

                                Maria

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