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    I am extremely confused about my refined haplogroup results. I do not have a clear picture whatsoever of where mtdna haplotype h7 comes from . I know that haplotype H is Western Europe, but what about the 7 ? Is it French,English,Irish,Scottish...what?????..Please help. It was an extra amount of $ for the haplotype refinement, but what good is it if I don't know the meaning of it.

  • #2
    Candy

    Hang in there. This is fairly new technology breaking down the H mtDNA results. As more people go through getting result the more brighter the picture will be.

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    • #3
      Haplogroup H7

      I contacted Mr. Greenspan. His reply was similar to yours. As more are tested, results will be clearer.....basically wait and see.So far there are 4 people with H7 haplotype with mutation 16519c in Hvr1.
      One from germany,one from Ireland,one from England and one from Poland.
      I suppose this gives a starting point, but I don't surmise the results will be much different. Who knows, like you both say..I'll have to wait and see.
      Thanks for your reply.

      Candy

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      • #4
        =) Some starting point that a huge area. I hope a lot more come into light soon to narrow it down. I fell into the H1* while this doesn't suprise me as my R1b is jsut as disappointing to find hard to pinpoint. It found on island, Germany, England, Scotland, Portagul(sp) and Ireland. =)

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        • #5
          Haplotype R1b and H1

          I have read that R1b in ydna is roughly the same as H in mtdna. I have also read that H7 is a derivitive of H1, at least that is what I think I read.... What I find odd is that since getting the results back from the haplotype refinement, I have a couple of hundred people that are exact matches in Hrv1(haplotype H), and a couple of dozen exact matches hrv1 (haplotype H1) and 4 in hrv1(haplotype H7) and a couple exact matches in hrv1 (haplotype Hv).
          What does this mean? It seems I have more people that I match in Haplotype H1.Why do I only match a few in sub clade H7, when that is what I have been designated to?Hmmm..I wish I understood

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          • #6
            H Subclades explained

            Please refer to the following page for an explanation of several H Subclades.
            http://www.ftdna.com/hclade2.html
            There is also a link to this page from your personal mtDNA results area.
            We will update that page with more subclades details as the scientific community publishes additional papers
            Max Blankfeld
            Vice-President and COO @ Family Tree DNA
            A Gene by Gene Company

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            • #7
              reference page to sub-clades

              Thank you.I have read the explanation sheet about haplotype H subclades. It makes no mention of H7. Hopefully in the near future, there will be an explanation for my designated Haplotype of H7.I will look forward to it soon.

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              • #8
                Get a clearer pic of H7

                Candy, I was tested and I was also told my HVR1 haplogroup is H7. I have HVR1 differences at 16162G, 16209C and 16519C. But if I read the haplogroup description correctly, I think I'm a H1a Did you ever find out anything more concrete about your H7 status?

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                • #9
                  Here is an interesting graph of the subhaplogroups of mtDNA H:

                  http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/conten...209f03_4c.jpeg

                  This graph is in this article:

                  http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/co...ull/21/11/2012

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                  • #10
                    H7 haplogroup

                    Igmayka, thanks for the graph...but now I'm not sure why I was mtDNA refined to H7 and not H1a. H1a has more of my HVR1 diff listed. Still

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                    • #11
                      The defining mutation for H7 is 4793G. FTDNA does not list this mutation on your result page. However, they should have tested for it to place you in H7.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by admin
                        Please refer to the following page for an explanation of several H Subclades.
                        http://www.ftdna.com/hclade2.html
                        There is also a link to this page from your personal mtDNA results area.
                        We will update that page with more subclades details as the scientific community publishes additional papers
                        I would like to see some 25 marker R1B sequences from the Urghur Region. Do you know of any?

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                        • #13
                          sorry...just a little off topic....

                          I am a haplo H...honest!

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                          • #14
                            H7 with sub. mutation 16519c


                            I'm happy to see that there are others like me wondering what H7 is all about.
                            I too have the substitute mutation 16519c.

                            Being a 13th generation American, I'm pretty mixed as far as ancestry, and I can trace my maternal line six generations back to Eastern North Carolina via England, Ireland or Scotland most likely.


                            Lynn

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                            • #15
                              H7

                              Let me add a little more confusion to the mix. I too am H7 with maternal ancestors from Italy.

                              My CRS differences are 16256T, 16272G and 16352C. I have no exact matches.

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